Schagerl style superbone project
- Jgittleson
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Well, the title says it all. I recently picked up a very vintage cerveny 4 valve small bore tenor in need of tlc, and being there's not a whole lot of value there, i decided to get suggestions as to what to do with it. The one i liked the most is the Schagerl superbone. Now, i know i cant do the exact horn, but it might be possible to do something similar. Im still working it all out, but i may try to do it as an alto for kicks. If i can keep the 4 valves i will, im thinking of a different hand position for the left hand, and keeping the horn extremely back heavy, so it can just rest on the players left palm (i will fashion some sort of rest).
I wont have the horn for a couple of weeks as its coming from Germany, but that'll give me plenty of time to make plans.
I wont have the horn for a couple of weeks as its coming from Germany, but that'll give me plenty of time to make plans.
- SwissTbone
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Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?
- Jgittleson
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[quote="cozzagiorgi"]Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?[/quote]
You read my mind. Now to see if it can be done.
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?[/quote]
You read my mind. Now to see if it can be done.
- Burgerbob
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[quote="cozzagiorgi"]Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?[/quote]
That's actually a more natural position for the hand, as the arm isn't pronated.
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?[/quote]
That's actually a more natural position for the hand, as the arm isn't pronated.
- Jgittleson
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- Joined: Jun 13, 2018
[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="cozzagiorgi" post_id="65624" time="1534420205" user_id="62">
Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?[/quote]
That's actually a more natural position for the hand, as the arm isn't pronated.
</QUOTE>
Neutral grip is the most natural, its how the body is supposed to be at rest. Used to teach anatomy, exercise physiology, kinesiology, etc.
Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.
Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?[/quote]
That's actually a more natural position for the hand, as the arm isn't pronated.
</QUOTE>
Neutral grip is the most natural, its how the body is supposed to be at rest. Used to teach anatomy, exercise physiology, kinesiology, etc.
- Jgittleson
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- Joined: Jun 13, 2018
[quote="Kbiggs"]Those are before and after pics, right? ;)[/quote]
Hahahaha yeah sure lets go with that.
Hahahaha yeah sure lets go with that.
- doctortrombone
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- Joined: Apr 21, 2018
Mmmmm!! Clock Spring Valve Levers!.
I bought one of those awhile back for a cimbasso project. I thought "As soon as I get that valve cluster working correctly, I'll start assembling it." That was five years ago.