Thein W3NY alto valve
- JCBone
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https://houghtonhorns.com/shop/thein-eb-alto/
This horn seems to have a very unique valve setup. I wonder If anybody here knows anything about this
This horn seems to have a very unique valve setup. I wonder If anybody here knows anything about this
- TomRiker
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Best guess it's so you can have a half or whole step trill valve? Also looks like you can have a tuning slide to make it a Bb attachment.
- Burgerbob
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If it's anything like the Chinese copies, it's also removable so it can be a straight alto.
- JCBone
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[quote="TomRiker"]Best guess it's so you can have a half or whole step trill valve? Also looks like you can have a tuning slide to make it a Bb attachment.[/quote]
I was actually more interested in the valve and that wacky overly complex trigger system.
I was actually more interested in the valve and that wacky overly complex trigger system.
- Burgerbob
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[quote="TomRiker"]Best guess it's so you can have a half or whole step trill valve? Also looks like you can have a tuning slide to make it a Bb attachment.[/quote]
It's both. There are two valves.
It's both. There are two valves.
- harrisonreed
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[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="TomRiker" post_id="144937" time="1617311586" user_id="9686">
Best guess it's so you can have a half or whole step trill valve? Also looks like you can have a tuning slide to make it a Bb attachment.[/quote]
It's both. There are two valves.
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It looks far too short though. I think the picture shows a combo whole step/half step valve. The whole step tubing can probably be switched for Bb.
Best guess it's so you can have a half or whole step trill valve? Also looks like you can have a tuning slide to make it a Bb attachment.[/quote]
It's both. There are two valves.
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It looks far too short though. I think the picture shows a combo whole step/half step valve. The whole step tubing can probably be switched for Bb.
- CalgaryTbone
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I play tested one of those at an ITF some years ago. It was set up with the valve in B flat, and had a short set of tubing to make it a trill valve. I don't remember them offering the 2nd valve within the tubing to allow for 1/2 and whole step trills. That is a newer innovation I'm guessing. You can also remove the valve to play it as a straight horn as well. Theins are beautiful instruments - listen to Toby Oft's - Leopold Mozart Concerto on his solo recording.
I'm guessing by looking at the pictures that in this set-up, you trill a 1/2 step with one valve, and the 2nd (dependent) valve can be kept engaged and you trill the same finger except now the trill will be a whole step. In the one I tried, the tubing could be replaced just beyond the valve with longer tubing to tune the valve to B flat. Interesting idea.
Jim Scott
I'm guessing by looking at the pictures that in this set-up, you trill a 1/2 step with one valve, and the 2nd (dependent) valve can be kept engaged and you trill the same finger except now the trill will be a whole step. In the one I tried, the tubing could be replaced just beyond the valve with longer tubing to tune the valve to B flat. Interesting idea.
Jim Scott
- JCBone
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Why is the valve sideways though? this is also the first time I have seen a valve that is part of the slide section
- brassmedic
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Can you say, "Over engineering"?
- harrisonreed
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[quote="JCBone"]Why is the valve sideways though? this is also the first time I have seen a valve that is part of the slide section[/quote]
It's pretty overkill
It's pretty overkill