Biolube for slides

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leafylief
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by leafylief »

https://berp.com/product/biolube-trombone-handslides/

I just bought this. Excited. I try to be as environmentally active as possible. I had thought of using some of my plant based bike lube but decided to see what i could find that's legit. It looks like this stuff will double as a tuning slide grease too.

Has anyone ever used this? How's the performance?

I'll check in in a few days with my results.
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Wakawaka555
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by Wakawaka555 »

Hi- thanks for sharing. I don't know why, but I always get suckered in to trying new oils. I do like the plant-based concept. Just ordered some (and rotary oil too). I have a few different configurations to try this on, so i'll report back too.
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tjonz
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by tjonz »

I recently purchased a Butler carbon fiber trombone. The slide really flies, but since moisture creates drag it must be kept dry. Berp Biolube and a drop of Yamaha silicon is the recommended method of lubrication. It seems to work well, although an unlubricated slide feels pretty much the same. I assume the Biolube will help prevent long term wear.

I'm considering trying Biolube on my brass slides and I had hoped to find feedback here from others who had tried it. Anyone?
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muschem
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by muschem »

I use biolube on my Butler CF slide, and I like it. I've tried it out on brass slides with mixed results. On its own, I don't hate it on brass slides, but for a single application, I prefer yamasnot. Combining a light coat of biolube and a drop of silicone works better for me than biolube on its own for brass slides. I also use Berp's rotor oil in weights 4 and 7, and that works well for me.
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BHolleyBrass
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by BHolleyBrass »

I bought some to try a few weeks ago (Shires yellow brass slide) and love it. A little of the BERP on the stockings with a little "Yamasnot" lasts much, much longer than the Yamasnot on its own. I don't like using a water bottle, but it's worth the extra five seconds an hour to keep the slide working more than one day between swabbings. That little container should last several years, too.
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="BHolleyBrass"]I don't like using a water bottle, but it's worth the extra five seconds an hour to keep the slide working more than one day between swabbings.[/quote]

Not sure why you would avoid the water bottle. I use mine (a short fine spray of distilled water on the lower part of each inner slide - about once every 45 minutes) on my (Yamaha- or Rapid Comfort-lubed) slide. But I still clean, swab, and dry my slides nearly every day, just to ensure they're put away dry and won't corrode. My slides remain in impeccable condition.
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BHolleyBrass
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by BHolleyBrass »

I used to avoid the water bottle because the Yamasnot worked well enough and long enough (for shorter gigs, anyway) on my main Shires slide without it and the fewer things I can get away with carrying, the better.

I’ve heard to use distilled water for several years, too (even in my Red Wing lit, if I remember correctly) and that’s in my bottle now, but the Shires maintenance video from earlier this week said to use tap or filtered water instead of distilled; I’m curious to know why they mentioned that. I’m a weird repair tech, I guess; my horns are all meticulously maintained. My first BERP application was right after a chem clean, buffing inside the outer tubes, buffing the stockings, and all that fun stuff.

Either way, the post is about BERP Biolube (not my dislike of having to use a water bottle... LOL) and, in my experience/testing, it works better than Yamasnot alone.
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pbone3b
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by pbone3b »

Just tried this on my 3b, so far so good. Feels good.

Let's see how it holds up in a real practice/rehearse/performance setting.

I like that it's a tiny jar that doesn't take up any room in the case. Nice to have options.
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pbone3b
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by pbone3b »

[quote="pbone3b"]Just tried this on my 3b, so far so good. Feels good.

Let's see how it holds up in a real practice/rehearse/performance setting.

I like that it's a tiny jar that doesn't take up any room in the case. Nice to have options.[/quote]
*UPDATE

Yeah...

I think I'm back on Yamaha. I like the idea of the Bio, but in the end I didn't like the feel.