King 607 & 608

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stjones
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by stjones »

I was told today that the King 607 is essentially the 3B .508 with F attachment and the King 608 the 3B+ .525 with f attachment. What's the story?

Thank you.

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Finetales
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by Finetales »

The 607F and 608F both have a .525" bore (like the 3B+F). The difference is the 607F has a yellow brass bell while the 608F has a rose brass bell. Both have a yellow slide unlike the 3B's nickel. Other than not having the signature curved brace, I'm not sure how else they differ from a 3B+F.
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by JLivi »

[quote="Finetales"]The 607F and 608F both have a .525" bore (like the 3B+F). The difference is the 607F has a yellow brass bell while the 608F has a rose brass bell. Both have a yellow slide unlike the 3B's nickel. Other than not having the signature curved brace, I'm not sure how else they differ from a 3B+F.[/quote]

I've seen some 3bf's with yellow slides. Or really the orange "king" lacquer color slide. Does that mean that the horn was paired with a 607/608 slide or did 3bf's come with non-nickel slides?
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

[quote="JLivi"]<QUOTE author="Finetales" post_id="151320" time="1624240479" user_id="136">
The 607F and 608F both have a .525" bore (like the 3B+F). The difference is the 607F has a yellow brass bell while the 608F has a rose brass bell. Both have a yellow slide unlike the 3B's nickel. Other than not having the signature curved brace, I'm not sure how else they differ from a 3B+F.[/quote]

I've seen some 3bf's with yellow slides. Or really the orange "king" lacquer color slide. Does that mean that the horn was paired with a 607/608 slide or did 3bf's come with non-nickel slides?
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Those 3B slides are just lacquered to look like the rest of the horn- they're still nickel. I have one!
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stjones
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by stjones »

So other than the lacquer and curved brace (and price) what makes a 3b(+)/f att different from a 607(8)/f att?
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

[quote="stjones"]So other than the lacquer and curved brace (and price) what makes a 3b(+)/f att different from a 607(8)/f att?[/quote]

As finetales said, a yellow brass slide.
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davebb
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by davebb »

In our house we have a 607F (thick orange lacquer) and a 3B+F (silver plate). The 3B+F is definitely easier to colour, more responsive, and has has a richer sound. The 3B+F is supposed to be for me and the 607F for my (16 y.o.) son, but somehow he got his hands on the 3B+F and won't give it back.
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DougHulme
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by DougHulme »

Old thread I know but... the question is will a 607 slide fit on to a 3b bell thus giving you in essence a 3B+ horn? If the answer to that is 'no' is that because the tennon wont fit? Or is it because the 3B+ has a larger bore in the bell?

No proposed work here, just curious... Doug
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Matt_K
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by Matt_K »

Correct. Tenons are different size. Parts aren’t expensive though.
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DougHulme
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by DougHulme »

Interesting, thanks.