WTB: Medium bore trombone

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kostie79
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by kostie79 »

I am looking for a .525 bore horn for a friend's son who is ready to step up to a better horn with a valve. I'm thinking something like a Back 36, Benge 175F, Conn 88H w/.525 slide, or something similar. Price needs to be reasonable, so Shires/Edwards are probably not much of an option. Thanks!
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hyperbolica
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by hyperbolica »

New or used, US or China? Or a dollar limit might help.
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kostie79
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by kostie79 »

I was told $3,000 is the limit, so that should be able to buy good, used medium bore horn. New or used is fine.
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

That's a pretty steep limit. You should be able to buy almost anything
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Matt_K
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by Matt_K »

Email sent!
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hyperbolica
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by hyperbolica »

The safest, easiest to get, most available will be Bach 36b or King 607/608, and a couple Yamaha models I'm sure others will mention. . King will be less expensive. The Bach is a full-on pro horn. Both good choices. If you buy used, I'd get it from a dealer who can guarantee condition. Best if you can go in person. Get a middle of the road mouthpiece like a Bach 7c or 6.5al.

With used horns, slide condition is everything. For kids, shine seems to be important.

You won't have to spend all that money. It will depend on how close to new you go with the Bach. You can get a new King for that money.
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

I have two that fit the bill:

--Getzen 1025. Excellent condition .525-bore horn with F-att.

--Yamaha 646. Also very nice .525 horn with F. Pro-level horn.

I will PM you.
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djkennedy
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by djkennedy »

Match personality with the instruments

Considering status local preferences

Band director or teacher preference advice

Orchestra concert band mixed pop jazz

Likes new. Or trusts and comfortable with old tried and true. I was surprised recently by a returning

pro customer looking for the same type of trombone

and thought he would go for a rare king 3B plus a fatt

instead a much used king 608 took the audition!!!!

Ideally. Try several !!!

Bachs are kinda the squarest

If you want to invest the limit get a “boutique “

That is modular for a genius and experimentation

Minded borderline geek type this will maintain

Interest support curiosity and the industry

Bring excitement and the best functionality

Possible get a good case too

Mouthpieces can be interesting

The good thing about modular is availablity

Of used components

Edwards has been around the longest and has the most parts. Shires next

These horns are and or can be the best

But actually GREAT PERFECTION SEEMS. CHIPPED

and it gets down to talent the greatest gift

Determination drive obsession. Inspiration

And practice

The instruments are just a means of communication

All the money in the world cannot buy

What has been given to some freely

Today I played old Bessie

In Steeleville Illinois Oktoberfest parade

She was my second trombone

I feel so fortunate to have such a friend and the life

And hope this for all DJ
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djkennedy
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by djkennedy »

Oh shires medium slide 5 leadpipes

From 5 time Latin Grammy winner

NESTOR ZABALA

SHO ME THE $$$$$$$$$
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djkennedy
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by djkennedy »

Suggest 8 in flare

Have cut to screw bell after deciding type.

Standard rotor

Lotsa practice

Have fun <EMOJI seq="1f929" tseq="1f929">🤩</EMOJI>!!!!!!!
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schiffko
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by schiffko »

Rath R3 !!!
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

This is for a kid. We don't know how careful he is about his horn, and the environment in which it will be used may not be the best for a really good instrument.

A good used Bach 36B might fill the bill, as would any of the following:

Benge 175F

Conn 79H, 50H

Getzen 1025 (or is it 1036?)

Holton TR-160, 682

King 607, 608, 2125-F (3B+F), maybe even 3BF

Olds SuperStar or Recording with F

Reynolds Onyx, Medalist with F

Yamaha 446, 646,684, 640, maybe even 350

There are even a couple of Chinese made instruments that may be OK. I particularly like the JP-Rath models and the Wessex Tubas models. These instruments are QC checked by people who will sort out the bad ones; something that seems to be lacking in Chinese QC.

Lots of choices. Just don't spend so much that if the kid's "friends" trash the horn it can't be replaced.
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djkennedy
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by djkennedy »

Don’t get in a big hurry !!!!!
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tomato
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by tomato »

i will be getting 32 tenor trombone from my best friend family to sell for them this are all professional tenor trombone some are like new condition or excellent no junk most of them are larger borer and small bore i will be picking this up on Friday king /Bach Conn Edwards Holton 1German made Ganter drop me line i think i will be able to help you :clever: :clever:
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JLivi
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by JLivi »

[quote="tomato"]i will be getting 32 tenor trombone from my best friend family to sell for them this are all professional tenor trombone some are like new condition or excellent no junk most of them are larger borer and small bore i will be picking this up on Friday king /Bach Conn Edwards Holton 1German made Ganter drop me line i think i will be able to help you :clever: :clever:[/quote]
32 trombones? I can't wait to see that list!
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spencercarran
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by spencercarran »

[quote="harrisonreed"]That's a pretty steep limit. You should be able to buy almost anything[/quote]

Yes, very easy to pick up a nice 36b at half that budget. Seems the safest route.
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deanmccarty
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by deanmccarty »

With a $3K limit you would be surprised what you can get. Off of this forum I have gotten a Rath R3 and a Rath R4F... both under $3K.

I would recommend a Bach 36B or a Getzen 1036... those are both fantastic choices.
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KingOfDreamland
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by KingOfDreamland »

My old King Tempo II 607F is for sale on The Brass Exchange, I think Doug has it listed for around $600. It got me through HS and college and was a great horn for me through those years.

Here's the link: <LINK_TEXT text="https://www.thebrass-exchange.com/conte ... attachment">https://www.thebrass-exchange.com/content/king-tempo-model-607-silver-f-attachment</LINK_TEXT>
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boneberg
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by boneberg »

Back to the Getzen 1036 (.525)... Does anyone know if it has a wide handslide?
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

[quote="boneberg"]Back to the Getzen 1036 (.525)... Does anyone know if it has a wide handslide?[/quote]

Yes.
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

My Getzen 1025 is for sale here: <LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28128&p=188452">https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28128&p=188452</LINK_TEXT>

There is a link for some photos. 1036 slide is the same width.
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boneberg
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by boneberg »

Thanks Tom