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- Chatname
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So the International Museum of Musical Instruments offers you a hefty sum of money to curate a chronological exhibition of the best, most important or iconic trombone models in the last 100 years.
Which ones would you include?
Which ones would you include?
- Vegasbound
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2b, 8h, 88h
- harrisonreed
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LoL. The premise is ridiculous.
Replicas of trombones from the 1600s made in 2010, I guess. Like they couldn't just do a Google search?? :D
Replicas of trombones from the 1600s made in 2010, I guess. Like they couldn't just do a Google search?? :D
- JohnL
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At least three Olds trombones:
Early "The Olds Trombone": One-piece, chrome plated inners (as opposed to nickel plated with soldered on stockings).
Pre-WWII Olds Bb-F-E Bass: First production double-rotor bass trombone (as opposed to single with a stillenventil)
S-24G: First production independent double bass trombone
Early "The Olds Trombone": One-piece, chrome plated inners (as opposed to nickel plated with soldered on stockings).
Pre-WWII Olds Bb-F-E Bass: First production double-rotor bass trombone (as opposed to single with a stillenventil)
S-24G: First production independent double bass trombone
- Burgerbob
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Conn Fuchs bass, then 50B and 62H and some other modern horns as successors of the design
Bach 36, 45, and 42, showing how a good design plus an ok design makes for a mainstay instrument
Bach 36, 45, and 42, showing how a good design plus an ok design makes for a mainstay instrument
- hyperbolica
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I'd include early basses ( going from Yeo's article) , and Edwards modular.
- although
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A fun thought experiment! I would like to see horns (the actual ones) played by famous players... Glen Miller, JJ Johnson, Joe Alessi...
- BGuttman
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[quote="Posaunus"]What did Arthur Pryor play?[/quote]
Pryor had a series of horns, all of which would be considered smaller than pea shooters today. He had a Conn that was similar to the 2H, and later a custom Holton of similar size.
We know what Joe Alessi plays now. He used to have a Bach 42B before his custom horns. We know that JJ played a King 2B slide on a 3B bell, then a Yamaha 691. Glenn Miller (and his entire section) played Bach 6 trombones (about the size of a Conn 4H).
The problem with knowing what great players used is that they are products of their times and simply using the same horn won't work for two reasons: firstly you aren't the same as them, and secondly the sound we are looking for today is not the same as the sound they were looking for then.
Pryor had a series of horns, all of which would be considered smaller than pea shooters today. He had a Conn that was similar to the 2H, and later a custom Holton of similar size.
We know what Joe Alessi plays now. He used to have a Bach 42B before his custom horns. We know that JJ played a King 2B slide on a 3B bell, then a Yamaha 691. Glenn Miller (and his entire section) played Bach 6 trombones (about the size of a Conn 4H).
The problem with knowing what great players used is that they are products of their times and simply using the same horn won't work for two reasons: firstly you aren't the same as them, and secondly the sound we are looking for today is not the same as the sound they were looking for then.
- flotrb
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[quote="Chatname"]...the best, most important or iconic trombone models in the last 100 years.
Which ones would you include?[/quote]
1975 King 1403 3B Silver Sonic, 1962 Holton 169, 1975 King 1490S DuoGravis
Which ones would you include?[/quote]
1975 King 1403 3B Silver Sonic, 1962 Holton 169, 1975 King 1490S DuoGravis
- Finetales
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Olds S-23, S-24G, HN White 2B, King 1480, 6B Duo Gravis (maybe SS), Bach 6vii, 36B, 42B, 50B, 6H, 88H, 62H, 44H Vocabell, Fuchs, Conn BBb contra, Williams 6, all the traditional German trombone sizes, a non-German alto (maybe a Minick?), a Glassl opera model F contra, any modern F contra, a B&H Betty G bass, a straight small bore G bass, an Egger or Meinl sackbut reproduction set, an original all-red Greenhoe bass, an Edwards T396A, a Bach 42T with a 50 slide (or Edwards equivalent), an Olds Ambassador, and a Yamaha 354.
It would be fun to include some exceptionally bad trombones too, like the Getzen "The Dude", a bad Bach 50B3OL, and an eBay special trombone shaped object.
It would be fun to include some exceptionally bad trombones too, like the Getzen "The Dude", a bad Bach 50B3OL, and an eBay special trombone shaped object.
- TromboneSam
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[quote="although"]A fun thought experiment! I would like to see horns (the actual ones) played by famous players... Glen Miller, JJ Johnson, Joe Alessi...[/quote]
Well here’s me fangirling over J.J.’s horn at the Musical Instrument Museum in Scottsdale, AZ! Highly recommend that museum, they have some instruments from many of the greats and some very cool instruments from around the world. I am standing directly in front of one of Miles Davis’ trumpets too. The place is massive. Probably too big to see it all in one day.
Well here’s me fangirling over J.J.’s horn at the Musical Instrument Museum in Scottsdale, AZ! Highly recommend that museum, they have some instruments from many of the greats and some very cool instruments from around the world. I am standing directly in front of one of Miles Davis’ trumpets too. The place is massive. Probably too big to see it all in one day.
- Dennis
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[quote="although"]A fun thought experiment! I would like to see horns (the actual ones) played by famous players... Glen Miller, JJ Johnson, Joe Alessi...[/quote]
Glenn Miller's surviving Bach 6 (if memory serves, it's a vii) is at the National Museum of the United States Air Force, at Wright-Patterson AFB outside Dayton, Ohio. I think I remember that Doug Elliott has played it at least once.
Glenn Miller's surviving Bach 6 (if memory serves, it's a vii) is at the National Museum of the United States Air Force, at Wright-Patterson AFB outside Dayton, Ohio. I think I remember that Doug Elliott has played it at least once.