Hardell USA Trombone
- Goodgig
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Bought this trombone on Craigslist. I'm assuming it’s a stencil - but of what? Anyone heard of Hardell USA? Mouthpiece receiver is smaller diameter. Slide bore is about.483. Heavy slide but sounds pretty decent with a lot of core.
- Goodgig
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- JohnL
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Short cork barrels, small bore, undersized lead pipe? I’m thinking Czech.
- officermayo
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[quote="JohnL"]Short cork barrels, small bore, undersized lead pipe? I’m thinking Czech.[/quote]
Nah. He paid cash.
Nah. He paid cash.
- afugate
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[quote="officermayo"]<QUOTE author="JohnL" post_id="164436" time="1638567459" user_id="119">
Short cork barrels, small bore, undersized lead pipe? I’m thinking Czech.[/quote]
Nah. He paid cash.
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--Andy in OKC
Short cork barrels, small bore, undersized lead pipe? I’m thinking Czech.[/quote]
Nah. He paid cash.
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--Andy in OKC
- sacfxdx
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[quote="afugate"]<QUOTE author="officermayo" post_id="164449" time="1638572582" user_id="12380">
Nah. He paid cash.[/quote]
--Andy in OKC
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Unfortunately he's here all week. :-)
Nah. He paid cash.[/quote]
--Andy in OKC
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Unfortunately he's here all week. :-)
- JohnL
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[quote="sacfxdx"]Unfortunately he's here all week. :-)[/quote]
Try the veal, and don't forget to tip your server.
Try the veal, and don't forget to tip your server.
- Matt_K
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I had a horn that was labeled "Jenkins" that had a similar appearance and playing characteristics. No idea about its source either but thought worth mentioning on the off chance it helps some dots connect.
- BGuttman
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[quote="Matt K"]
I had a horn that was labeled "Jenkins" that had a similar appearance and playing characteristics. No idea about its source either but thought worth mentioning on the off chance it helps some dots connect.[/quote]
Did we fight a war for its ear? :tongue:
(Don't worry, I'll let myself out ...)
I had a horn that was labeled "Jenkins" that had a similar appearance and playing characteristics. No idea about its source either but thought worth mentioning on the off chance it helps some dots connect.[/quote]
Did we fight a war for its ear? :tongue:
(Don't worry, I'll let myself out ...)
- Kingfan
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[quote="Matt K"]I had a horn that was labeled "Jenkins" that had a similar appearance and playing characteristics. No idea about its source either but thought worth mentioning on the off chance it helps some dots connect.[/quote]
From what I read J. W. Jenkins was a woodwind and brasswind manufacturer in the 1920s. Maybe a Hardell is a Jenkins stencil?
From what I read J. W. Jenkins was a woodwind and brasswind manufacturer in the 1920s. Maybe a Hardell is a Jenkins stencil?
- JohnL
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[quote="Kingfan"]From what I read J. W. Jenkins was a woodwind and brasswind manufacturer in the 1920s. Maybe a Hardell is a Jenkins stencil?[/quote]
Can you refer me to your source? All of the information I found is focused on their retail operation (which was quite pretty large at one time) and music publishing, with only a passing mention of their manufacturing operations (and then only to guitars and mandolins).
As a side note, I noticed that the various articles I found can't seem to agree on how many floors the building had - though I think that arises from the question of whether the mezzanine level counts as a "floor".
Can you refer me to your source? All of the information I found is focused on their retail operation (which was quite pretty large at one time) and music publishing, with only a passing mention of their manufacturing operations (and then only to guitars and mandolins).
As a side note, I noticed that the various articles I found can't seem to agree on how many floors the building had - though I think that arises from the question of whether the mezzanine level counts as a "floor".
- Kingfan
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[quote="JohnL"]<QUOTE author="Kingfan" post_id="164501" time="1638629920" user_id="3053">From what I read J. W. Jenkins was a woodwind and brasswind manufacturer in the 1920s. Maybe a Hardell is a Jenkins stencil?[/quote]
Can you refer me to your source? All of the information I found is focused on their retail operation (which was quite pretty large at one time) and music publishing, with only a passing mention of their manufacturing operations (and then only to guitars and mandolins).
As a side note, I noticed that the various articles I found can't seem to agree on how many floors the building had - though I think that arises from the question of whether the mezzanine level counts as a "floor".
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Happy to!
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Can you refer me to your source? All of the information I found is focused on their retail operation (which was quite pretty large at one time) and music publishing, with only a passing mention of their manufacturing operations (and then only to guitars and mandolins).
As a side note, I noticed that the various articles I found can't seem to agree on how many floors the building had - though I think that arises from the question of whether the mezzanine level counts as a "floor".
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Happy to!
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- JohnL
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[quote="Kingfan"]Happy to!
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I think that's an error on Kenton's part; you see Jenkins listed as a manufacturer in several places in the table, but only as a retailer for Cardinal (violin strings) - and that entry is replicated elsewhere in the table, but with Jenkins as a manufacturer.
From elsewhere on the Horn-u-Copia website:
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I think that's an error on Kenton's part; you see Jenkins listed as a manufacturer in several places in the table, but only as a retailer for Cardinal (violin strings) - and that entry is replicated elsewhere in the table, but with Jenkins as a manufacturer.
From elsewhere on the Horn-u-Copia website:
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- Matt_K
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Its also possible that its the reverse. Or that Hardell and Jenkins were, themselves, both stencils of something!