Sold: Edwards B454 with options of slides
- Burgerbob
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- Joined: Apr 23, 2018
I really wanted to make this horn work, but it just isn't quite there for me. In any case, it's a great example of a very early Edwards B454- bell tab mounting, TVI Thayers, metal thumb paddle, etc.
This one consists of axial valves (TVI, not later Edwards axials), yellow single radius tuning slide, and 1083 bell (medium weight yellow, not heavy).
Horn is very easy to play, great intonation, even sound across all ranges. I find it a middle ground between the optimized cannons of the era with the really heavy yellow bells and the other red bell options- it can do a really great orchestral loud sound but isn't an absolute chore to hold up or play. For my uses, just not quite enough front to to the note or zing at lower dynamics. It would be at home in many other settings, though. Not picky at all about
Valves are quick and quiet- I cleaned them out and they are in great shape, don't seem to have been played much. They are not leaky and with Ultra-Pure oil, have been flawless for me. The same goes for the rest of the horn, which is used but not abused. Some bell dings on the player side, a couple scratches, some missing lacquer, but compared to most Edwards of the time in very good shape.
Slide options:
DBB: The slide that came with this bell section. Dual bore .562/578, all yellow, no oversleeves, normal short Edwards length. This is the most comfortable slide for me since I'm used to dual bores. I think there's a dirty spot on the inside of one of the outers as it makes some noise in a certain spot, but to my arm it's a solid 7/10+ slide. Haven't had a single issue with it.
V: I have an ad up for this elsewhere, but it's an Edwards 502 slide: Single bore .562, rose outers, yellow crook, equal length oversleeves, thick handbrace, a bit longer than Edwards length. More color with this one, more bloom, easier to play with less air. Good action as well, but a heavier outer.
Butler Carbon Fiber: I have a review of this elsewhere, I played it with this slide for a couple weeks nonstop. Straight .562, curved handbrace, racing pedigree, Bach length. This one, I think, actually sounds and plays the best of the 3. Very open, easy, no strange ranges, extremely light. A bit wider slots gives some room for dynamics and low range. If I could deal with the ergonomics, I would keep this horn and use this slide. I've had John Sanghagen align the inner slide so the action is quite good now, but with all the CF quirks.
Any slide option will include the original Edwards 1 and 3 leadpipes. I have the original case as well, but unless you're picking it up locally I'll probably ship without case.
Prices:
with DBB $3200
with V $3400
with Butler $3600
We can work out a combo as well. You want all 3 slides?? A billion dollars! Two billion!
This one consists of axial valves (TVI, not later Edwards axials), yellow single radius tuning slide, and 1083 bell (medium weight yellow, not heavy).
Horn is very easy to play, great intonation, even sound across all ranges. I find it a middle ground between the optimized cannons of the era with the really heavy yellow bells and the other red bell options- it can do a really great orchestral loud sound but isn't an absolute chore to hold up or play. For my uses, just not quite enough front to to the note or zing at lower dynamics. It would be at home in many other settings, though. Not picky at all about
Valves are quick and quiet- I cleaned them out and they are in great shape, don't seem to have been played much. They are not leaky and with Ultra-Pure oil, have been flawless for me. The same goes for the rest of the horn, which is used but not abused. Some bell dings on the player side, a couple scratches, some missing lacquer, but compared to most Edwards of the time in very good shape.
Slide options:
DBB: The slide that came with this bell section. Dual bore .562/578, all yellow, no oversleeves, normal short Edwards length. This is the most comfortable slide for me since I'm used to dual bores. I think there's a dirty spot on the inside of one of the outers as it makes some noise in a certain spot, but to my arm it's a solid 7/10+ slide. Haven't had a single issue with it.
V: I have an ad up for this elsewhere, but it's an Edwards 502 slide: Single bore .562, rose outers, yellow crook, equal length oversleeves, thick handbrace, a bit longer than Edwards length. More color with this one, more bloom, easier to play with less air. Good action as well, but a heavier outer.
Butler Carbon Fiber: I have a review of this elsewhere, I played it with this slide for a couple weeks nonstop. Straight .562, curved handbrace, racing pedigree, Bach length. This one, I think, actually sounds and plays the best of the 3. Very open, easy, no strange ranges, extremely light. A bit wider slots gives some room for dynamics and low range. If I could deal with the ergonomics, I would keep this horn and use this slide. I've had John Sanghagen align the inner slide so the action is quite good now, but with all the CF quirks.
Any slide option will include the original Edwards 1 and 3 leadpipes. I have the original case as well, but unless you're picking it up locally I'll probably ship without case.
Prices:
with DBB $3200
with V $3400
with Butler $3600
We can work out a combo as well. You want all 3 slides?? A billion dollars! Two billion!