Bass bone - G-tuning
- WeekendWailer
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My current horn has an option to switch between Gb/G tuning. I currently use the Gb but will try out the G and wondered what people's thoughts are. It seems like a lot of people who make the switch are happy with it. I know Denson Paul Pollard uses it and Blair Bollinger has a flat G version of it.
- Tetraphosphate
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[quote="WeekendWailer"]My current horn has an option to switch between Gb/G tuning. I currently use the Gb but will try out the G and wondered what people's thoughts are. It seems like a lot of people who make the switch are happy with it. I know Denson Paul Pollard uses it and Blair Bollinger has a flat G version of it.[/quote]
Denson Paul Pollard made a video explaining the G valve - here[url]https://youtu.be/nYlrtuarya0 for anyone interested
Denson Paul Pollard made a video explaining the G valve - here
- Burgerbob
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I can't get on board with how far out low C and low B are.
- robcat2075
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There's a piece I keep telling myself I should learn that has a fast two-octave Ab arpeggio and with a G trigger I can do it all in 3rd position.
Other than that...? :idk:
Other than that...? :idk:
- Bassbonechandler
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I just find having g flat turning even without trying g would make more sense to me. Especially with low arpeggios.
- BrassedOn
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[quote="Tetraphosphate"]<QUOTE author="WeekendWailer" post_id="68563" time="1538453550" user_id="3768">
My current horn has an option to switch between Gb/G tuning. I currently use the Gb but will try out the G and wondered what people's thoughts are. It seems like a lot of people who make the switch are happy with it. I know Denson Paul Pollard uses it and Blair Bollinger has a flat G version of it.[/quote]
Denson Paul Pollard made a video explaining the G valve - here[url]https://youtu.be/nYlrtuarya0 for anyone interested
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I really appreciate Denson Paul Pollard's providing context for his use of the G valve. Good lesson on how to explain something succinctly. And I could clearly see his left hand to monitor his use of the valve. Good on ya!
My current horn has an option to switch between Gb/G tuning. I currently use the Gb but will try out the G and wondered what people's thoughts are. It seems like a lot of people who make the switch are happy with it. I know Denson Paul Pollard uses it and Blair Bollinger has a flat G version of it.[/quote]
Denson Paul Pollard made a video explaining the G valve - here
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I really appreciate Denson Paul Pollard's providing context for his use of the G valve. Good lesson on how to explain something succinctly. And I could clearly see his left hand to monitor his use of the valve. Good on ya!
- elmsandr
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[quote="Burgerbob"]I can't get on board with how far out low C and low B are.[/quote]
This always stopped me.
G > Gb
BUT
D >>> Eb (for me, YMMV)
I have always wanted to build a section that slides can swap around to make both valves configurable from G, Gb, F, E, bE to see what would work in practice. The G/bE/D has always intrigued me, but I don't know if that bE valve will be very useful.
Cheers,
Andy
This always stopped me.
G > Gb
BUT
D >>> Eb (for me, YMMV)
I have always wanted to build a section that slides can swap around to make both valves configurable from G, Gb, F, E, bE to see what would work in practice. The G/bE/D has always intrigued me, but I don't know if that bE valve will be very useful.
Cheers,
Andy
- WeekendWailer
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[quote="Tetraphosphate"]Denson Paul Pollard made a video explaining the G valve - here [url]https://youtu.be/nYlrtuarya0 for anyone interested[/quote]
I watched that video and it is what tempted me to try it out.
[quote="Burgerbob"]I can't get on board with how far out low C and low B are.[/quote]
Yeah, I thought is was ok but in the spear motif, you have to go from a low B natural to pedal A. It is a bit of a jump.
[quote="elmsandr"]D >>> Eb (for me, YMMV)[/quote]
I think I agree with this. The F-attachment provides Eb in 3.5 and you are only going through one valve.
After trying it out for a few days, I have gone back to Gb. I like having the option but I think it isn't for me. I also noticed that I use C in 2nd with the Gb trigger fairly often for A-minor and C-major arpeggio type things.
I watched that video and it is what tempted me to try it out.
[quote="Burgerbob"]I can't get on board with how far out low C and low B are.[/quote]
Yeah, I thought is was ok but in the spear motif, you have to go from a low B natural to pedal A. It is a bit of a jump.
[quote="elmsandr"]D >>> Eb (for me, YMMV)[/quote]
I think I agree with this. The F-attachment provides Eb in 3.5 and you are only going through one valve.
After trying it out for a few days, I have gone back to Gb. I like having the option but I think it isn't for me. I also noticed that I use C in 2nd with the Gb trigger fairly often for A-minor and C-major arpeggio type things.
- marccromme
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[quote="WeekendWailer"]I also noticed that I use C in 2nd with the Gb trigger fairly often for A-minor and C-major arpeggio type things.[/quote]
^^^ This! And B in 3rd !
Plus it is nice to have F valve same as a tenor (unless you are using G or Gb tuning on tenor), which means Bb/F/G/Eb, and having C and B too far out on the slide.
And Bb/G/Eb/Db tuning is just too esoteric if one also plays tenor in Bb/F, imho.
^^^ This! And B in 3rd !
Plus it is nice to have F valve same as a tenor (unless you are using G or Gb tuning on tenor), which means Bb/F/G/Eb, and having C and B too far out on the slide.
And Bb/G/Eb/Db tuning is just too esoteric if one also plays tenor in Bb/F, imho.
- JasonDonnelly
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[quote="elmsandr"]
D >>> Eb (for me, YMMV)
[/quote]
Yep. This is the kicker. I love using my Gb valve alone for C, B and low F and Gb sometimes. But the thought of the double-trigger range being even further out is too frightening.
I've thought about doing something crazy, lie Bb/G/D/flat-C-ish.
D >>> Eb (for me, YMMV)
[/quote]
Yep. This is the kicker. I love using my Gb valve alone for C, B and low F and Gb sometimes. But the thought of the double-trigger range being even further out is too frightening.
I've thought about doing something crazy, lie Bb/G/D/flat-C-ish.
- MoominDave
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I have tubing for my bass that creates a G 2nd valve. It was very useful when I had an old brass band contest piece (Edward Gregson's 'Essay') with exposed glissandi G-Eb, written for the G bass trombone (probably? Gregson was writing in the time period (1970) where G was giving way rapidly to Bb/F).
I also have tubing that creates Bb/F/Ab/E tuning. It was very useful for the B-F# glissando in the Nielsen flute concerto when it came up on the schedule.
Day to day - happy with my usual unusual set-up (second valve long D).
I also have tubing that creates Bb/F/Ab/E tuning. It was very useful for the B-F# glissando in the Nielsen flute concerto when it came up on the schedule.
Day to day - happy with my usual unusual set-up (second valve long D).