Hammond Design: Friedman tenor series (F3)

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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

Hi all,

Has anyone tried out the Hammond F3 which was recently added to the Jay Friedman Hammond line? Would be curious to get some opinions before saving up for one.
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Bach5G
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by Bach5G »

Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

What do you play now? The Friedman stuff is always a little weird to my tastes. I think it's great if you're playing a 50 slide in a big hall, but on "normal" horns they sound a bit small or constrained.
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spencercarran
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by spencercarran »

[quote="Bach5G"]Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.[/quote]

He's been an orchestral pro for what, 60 years now? I've probably gone through that many mouthpiece brands in a (much) shorter time.
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by Bach5G »

[quote="spencercarran"]<QUOTE author="Bach5G" post_id="173389" time="1646948017" user_id="2999">
Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.[/quote]

He's been an orchestral pro for what, 60 years now? I've probably gone through that many mouthpiece brands in a (much) shorter time.
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“Spencer Carran” mouthpieces? I’m not familiar with those.
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Tbarh
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by Tbarh »

[quote="Burgerbob"]What do you play now? The Friedman stuff is always a little weird to my tastes. I think it's great if you're playing a 50 slide in a big hall, but on "normal" horns they sound a bit small or constrained.[/quote]
The version he is using himself are actually pretty big.. 3G sized and not too small throat either.. Besides, its more how You blow them..
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by Tbarh »

[quote="Bach5G"]Friedman gets around. Schilke, Parker, Brass Ark, and now Hammond.[/quote]
Hammond was actually before Brassark..
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paulyg
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by paulyg »

The F1 was cool. Compared to the Brassark Friedman, it felt a little less flexible and more stable. Easier to get a predictable decent sound, harder to color. I noticed that the rim diameter and contour felt slightly different, the cup was almost identical (so was the throat) and the backbore on the Brassark looked (and felt) more open.
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spencercarran
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by spencercarran »

[quote="Bach5G"]<QUOTE author="spencercarran" post_id="173391" time="1646949561" user_id="10390">

He's been an orchestral pro for what, 60 years now? I've probably gone through that many mouthpiece brands in a (much) shorter time.[/quote]

“Spencer Carran” mouthpieces? I’m not familiar with those.
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I'm not fancy enough for manufacturers to want to put my name on anything. I just meant that it doesn't seem like Friedman is any more gear-fickle than the rest of us.
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="Burgerbob"]What do you play now? The Friedman stuff is always a little weird to my tastes. I think it's great if you're playing a 50 slide in a big hall, but on "normal" horns they sound a bit small or constrained.[/quote]

My main piece is a custom hammond similar to a <U>12L</U>

(Slightly larger inner rim, slightly larger outer rim diameter, slightly shallower cup)
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="spencercarran"]<QUOTE author="Bach5G" post_id="173393" time="1646950707" user_id="2999">

“Spencer Carran” mouthpieces? I’m not familiar with those.[/quote]

I'm not fancy enough for manufacturers to want to put my name on anything. I just meant that it doesn't seem like Friedman is any more gear-fickle than the rest of us.
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I studied with Jay, he's one of the biggest gear heads i've ever met, but he deserves to be with his legacy.

I believe he tries different trombones, different bells, different mouthpieces on the regular. I'm sure all the companies want him to play their brand, but he's quite loyal to bach.
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

I've tried a few of Jay Friedman's favorites over the years. They never have worked for me -- but I don't play in Orchestra Hall [played there once in the 1970s -- it's a different place now], and I certainly don't have Jay Friedman's chops! :shuffle: Jay is his own animal, and what he plays clearly works for him! :good:
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cigmar
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by cigmar »

I'm not seeing the F3 on the Hammond website, just the alto FA3. Could anyone share some specs. I'm currently on the F1 and liking it a lot. Would be interested to compare the F1 and F3.