Trombilizer Review by Joseph Alessi

whitbey · by **whitbey** » 2022-04-01 9:30 p.m.

Is it a counter weight?

Or a sound thing like on the Edwards horns he wouldn't use?

<YOUTUBE id="E6PfxK0uWno">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6PfxK0uWno</YOUTUBE>

~~[url]~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6PfxK0uWno

robcat2075 · by **robcat2075** » 2022-04-01 9:55 p.m.

Ouch.

ZacharyThornton · by **ZacharyThornton** » 2022-04-04 9:15 a.m.

Wait so the horn he helped design isn’t balanced and needs an aftermarket counterweight?

jonphilpott · by **jonphilpott** » 2022-04-04 1:44 p.m.

They're available here, ran the page through google translate:

<LINK_TEXT text="https://www-joybrass-com.translate.goog ... r_pto=wapp">https://www-joybrass-com.translate.goog/shopdetail/000000002597/ct32/page1/order/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp</LINK_TEXT>

$180?

tbonesullivan · by **tbonesullivan** » 2022-04-04 1:56 p.m.

Not really a new concept by any means. But since his horn7 don't have a nice spot for adding weights anymore, I guess he's got to branch out.

tombone21 · by **tombone21** » 2022-04-05 6:56 p.m.

I haven't seen one of these in person yet, but I imagine this counterweight would especially come in handy for rebalancing screw bells. For the Edwards folks following along at home, that's when the bell is in two (2) pieces. Lots of makers have figured out how to do them.

u_2bobone · by **u_2bobone** » 2022-04-05 7:08 p.m.

Has no one noticed that the posting was on "April Fool's Day" ?

glenp · by **glenp** » 2022-04-05 7:19 p.m.

[quote="2bobone"]Has no one noticed that the posting was on "April Fool's Day" ?[/quote]

Maybe so, but the video was posted earlier in March and the product exists on the JoyBrass site. <LINK_TEXT text="https://www.joybrass.com/shopdetail/000 ... ge1/order/">https://www.joybrass.com/shopdetail/000000002597/ct32/page1/order/</LINK_TEXT>

timothy42b · by **timothy42b** » 2022-04-05 7:24 p.m.

Hmm. Wonder if they're something like this:

<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.amazon.com/Climax-2C-050-Tw ... 47502&th=1">https://www.amazon.com/Climax-2C-050-Two-Piece-Clamping-Plating/dp/B001VXS9KS/ref=asc_df_B001VXS9KS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475716059512&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4202933805542079085&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008605&hvtargid=pla-1183169747502&th=1</LINK_TEXT>

Dschwalbach · by **Dschwalbach** » 2022-04-05 7:57 p.m.

Looks to me like a large reason why he is using that is to counter the weight of the cut bell that he is now playing on. Those suckers can be heavy!

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2022-04-05 8:55 p.m.

[quote="2bobone"]Has no one noticed that the posting was on "April Fool's Day" ?[/quote]

Yeah, no, this is a real thing.

robcat2075 · by **robcat2075** » 2022-04-06 2:23 p.m.

That's... real?

I withdraw my previous "ouch" of irony and replace it with an "ouch" of genuine dismay.

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2022-04-06 7:44 p.m.

[quote="robcat2075"]That's... real?

I withdraw my previous "ouch" of irony and replace it with an "ouch" of genuine dismay.[/quote]

<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.joybrass.com/smartphone/det ... der&page=1">https://www.joybrass.com/smartphone/detail.html?id=000000002597&category_code=ct6&sort=order&page=1</LINK_TEXT>

<YOUTUBE id="Bg_1Eznnb-E">~~[media]~~https://youtu.be/Bg_1Eznnb-E</YOUTUBE>

(He's using it in this awesome master class)

I mean, it's a cool idea and design. Cooler looking and more elegant than the Edwards "TERD" (bruh, who named that thing???). It's overpriced (~$200), though.

The irony is definitely that the Edwards harmonic brace IS a customizable counterweight. Maybe the most advanced counterweight around (BAC also has one). But to my knowledge Joe wasn't really using it.

Jimkinkella · by **Jimkinkella** » 2022-04-06 10:02 p.m.

<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.mcmaster.com/spacers/shaft- ... couplings/">https://www.mcmaster.com/spacers/shaft-collars-and-couplings/</LINK_TEXT>

You could always go industrial, and save $150.....

DougHulme · by **DougHulme** » 2022-04-07 3:27 a.m.

You could always go industrial, and save $150.....

I see they do them crome plated - that wouldnt even look 'industrial'!

BassPosKenner · by **BassPosKenner** » 2022-04-07 6:55 a.m.

All jokes aside, a quick release counterweight actually sounds kind of awesome for long stints with a mute in. Might finally make the jo ral bucket mute usable.

Elow · by **Elow** » 2022-04-11 11:27 a.m.

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HermanGerman · by **HermanGerman** » 2022-04-12 3:46 a.m.

As we can here now it does not help...

robcat2075 · by **robcat2075** » 2022-04-12 4:43 p.m.

If that one weight is good... why not two?

BigBadandBass · by **BigBadandBass** » 2022-04-20 3:39 p.m.

I actually bought one of these for my bass and have been using it for 2 weeks. I can sum up my thoughts and make a mini review if there is interest.

In short, it probably changes your sound 1-2%, for those guys it’s a big change, for me, it balances my horn and evens out the weight of the cut

timothy42b · by **timothy42b** » 2022-04-21 7:54 p.m.

[quote="BassPosKenner"]All jokes aside, a quick release counterweight actually sounds kind of awesome for long stints with a mute in. Might finally make the jo ral bucket mute usable.[/quote]

Here you go. Two strong magnets and a couple of fender washers from Home Depot.
<ATTACHMENT filename="Magnetic counterweight.jpg" index="0">~~[attachment=0]~~Magnetic counterweight.jpg</ATTACHMENT>

whitbey · by **whitbey** » 2022-04-22 1:00 a.m.

I like that. Makes a trial cheap and easy.

DougHulme · by **DougHulme** » 2022-04-22 3:08 a.m.

Timothy42b... never mind the counterweight - I'm impressed with the trombone stand!!

TromboneTallie · by **TromboneTallie** » 2022-04-22 3:11 a.m.

The man keeps Nestle Quick on the floor in case of emergencies. He makes trombone stands out of old oscillating fans. He bathes in his kitchen sink. He invented the trombilizer before Joe made it cool. He only wears bowling shoes and carries a biscuit tin. And he needs a counterweight that has more mass than the rest of his Chinese-made alto trombone. He is the Legend.

timothy42b · by **timothy42b** » 2022-04-22 5:12 p.m.

[quote="TromboneTallie"]The man keeps Nestle Quick on the floor in case of emergencies. He makes trombone stands out of old oscillating fans. He bathes in his kitchen sink. He invented the trombilizer before Joe made it cool. He only wears bowling shoes and carries a biscuit tin. And he needs a counterweight that has more mass than the rest of his Chinese-made alto trombone. He is the Legend.[/quote]

Well, all modesty aside:

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TromboneTallie · by **TromboneTallie** » 2022-04-22 6:46 p.m.

He grows onions using the diet Pepsi osmosis method. He is the Legend! He is Tim!

DougHulme · by **DougHulme** » 2022-04-23 3:25 a.m.

Full of admiration!!

whitbey · by **whitbey** » 2022-05-12 2:31 p.m.

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Ok, Got to show off my bone stand. 7 horns. stand is mounted on floor so nothing can bounce into each other. Wood poles with plungers. And a slide holder.

DougHulme · by **DougHulme** » 2022-05-12 5:07 p.m.

Excellent :good:

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2023-09-28 7:30 p.m.

Not used any more.

ROCHUT · by **ROCHUT** » 2024-06-25 8:19 a.m.

I use it on a screw-bell Bach Artisan to re-balance the horn. It works great.

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