King Serial Numbers

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bramnash
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by bramnash »

My King 3B Concert has only a 4-digit serial number: 7154

I don't seem to be able to track down how old it is from this.

Any help and information will be most appreciated!
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

The 7154 is a part number. All King slides have one. There should be a 6 digit number that is the serial near the bell joint. Note that the 3B first appeared in 1955. King was using 6 digit serials long before that.

Sometimes a picture of the bell engraving can help the King fanatics on the Forum estimate the date.
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bramnash
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by bramnash »

Seems unusual then. There are only the four digits 7154
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Kingfan
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by Kingfan »

[quote="bramnash"]Seems unusual then. There are only the four digits 7154[/quote]

Where are those numbers located?
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flotrb
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by flotrb »

I was informed, when trying to identify my Bach Soloist manufacture date with Conn-Selmer, that the 4-digit numbers are used to keep up with the parts to match to the instrument. My 4-digit numbers are on the outside slide.
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

King 3B slides and bell sections get swapped around a lot because they are/were compatible over about 6 decades. If you have an older bell section and a newer slide it is possible to have a 3B with no serial number. The bell section engraving is very helpful in dating a bell section. You should post a photo. In fact, a photos of the slide (top and bottom of outer slide) and anything stamped on the inner slide hand grip area would be helpful in dating each component.
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trose02
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by trose02 » (edited 2023-03-31 9:09 a.m.)

For those seeking info about King serial numbers, please see the following --->[url]https://www.hnwhite.com/Serial%20Numbers.htm

(3/31/23 - updated url to reflect new page location)

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Paulyd
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by Paulyd »

First post. How accurate are the serial numbers on the hnwhite.com site?
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Taan
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by Taan »

The only number close to a serialnumber I can find on my (borrowed) 2103 /3B only has 5 digits

it's 80756 and it's near the screwjoint where you put the slide on.

It has an F valve and it has that orange lacquer. Any idea how I could put a build date to this instrument?

It should be at least 30 years old, knowing a bit of the history.

Could there be a hidden place for the serialnumber?

There are also some other shorter numbers on it, but I guess those are partnumbers.

The bell sais:

[Drawing of a crown]

King

2103

USA

3B
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

King serial #s are pretty much always 6 digits. Is it possible there is a 6th digit at the end of that number that you missed? That would put your number (80756x) in the area of 1980 - which is consistent with the bell engraving.
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Taan
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by Taan »

thnx, maybe the engraving guy forgot the last number after his lunchbreak :D
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kristian70214
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by kristian70214 »

Hi guys my name is chris, I recently purchased a king 601 trumpet at a pawn shop for $79 serial number 166529 can anybody tell me more about it?