Trombone king h. N. White 1480 made in 1960
- Massimo69
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Trombone king 1480 made in 1960. 600 euro very good conditions
- Posaunus
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I was not familiar with the 1480 designation, so I looked it up:
HN White KING 1480 (5B) trombone
King Symphony trombone by the HN White company. These were marketed as bass trombones but are essentially large bore (0.547") trombones with a 9-inch Bell. They morphed into the King 5B. 0.547 bore. Virtually a 5B with a different wrap. The bell throat is larger than modern tenors.
HN White KING 1480 (5B) trombone
King Symphony trombone by the HN White company. These were marketed as bass trombones but are essentially large bore (0.547") trombones with a 9-inch Bell. They morphed into the King 5B. 0.547 bore. Virtually a 5B with a different wrap. The bell throat is larger than modern tenors.
- BGuttman
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The King Symphony started as a dual bore 0.536"/0.547" (small shank). The bell taper is a little more gradual than the 4B (Sonorous) so it sounds a bit more bass like. During its production life it morphed into a single bore 0.547" and eventually the 4B wrap that we know as the 5B.
I played an old Symphony (even old in 1964) that took a small shank mouthpiece and had the valve installed with the mechanism toward my chin. Thank heavens that inverted valve was abandoned in favor of a more modern style.
I played an old Symphony (even old in 1964) that took a small shank mouthpiece and had the valve installed with the mechanism toward my chin. Thank heavens that inverted valve was abandoned in favor of a more modern style.
- Finetales
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The OG 1480 is much better as a small bass than a tenor - it was marketed correctly. You can use it as a classical large tenor with some effort, and I did so in a festival orchestra on 2nd trombone before when I owned one. But that's not where it shines. Mine had the .536 dual bore but with a large shank (actually, probably a bit larger than large) and was lovely as a small bass. It's my opinion that players wanting a smaller bass than even a single Conn 70 series should go to a 1480 first, rather than trying to find one of those oddball .555-bore Besson/B&H horns or track down an elusive Bach 45B.
I've never played a 5B (or a 4B for that matter), but I get the impression that that instrument is more of a big tenor. The Benge 165/190 used the 5B flare cut to 8.5" after all, and those are never considered anything but tenors.
I've never played a 5B (or a 4B for that matter), but I get the impression that that instrument is more of a big tenor. The Benge 165/190 used the 5B flare cut to 8.5" after all, and those are never considered anything but tenors.