Trombone king h. N. White 1480 made in 1960

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Massimo69
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by Massimo69 »

Trombone king 1480 made in 1960. 600 euro very good conditions
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

I was not familiar with the 1480 designation, so I looked it up:

HN White KING 1480 (5B) trombone

King Symphony trombone by the HN White company. These were marketed as bass trombones but are essentially large bore (0.547") trombones with a 9-inch Bell. They morphed into the King 5B. 0.547 bore. Virtually a 5B with a different wrap. The bell throat is larger than modern tenors.
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

The King Symphony started as a dual bore 0.536"/0.547" (small shank). The bell taper is a little more gradual than the 4B (Sonorous) so it sounds a bit more bass like. During its production life it morphed into a single bore 0.547" and eventually the 4B wrap that we know as the 5B.

I played an old Symphony (even old in 1964) that took a small shank mouthpiece and had the valve installed with the mechanism toward my chin. Thank heavens that inverted valve was abandoned in favor of a more modern style.
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Finetales
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by Finetales »

The OG 1480 is much better as a small bass than a tenor - it was marketed correctly. You can use it as a classical large tenor with some effort, and I did so in a festival orchestra on 2nd trombone before when I owned one. But that's not where it shines. Mine had the .536 dual bore but with a large shank (actually, probably a bit larger than large) and was lovely as a small bass. It's my opinion that players wanting a smaller bass than even a single Conn 70 series should go to a 1480 first, rather than trying to find one of those oddball .555-bore Besson/B&H horns or track down an elusive Bach 45B.

I've never played a 5B (or a 4B for that matter), but I get the impression that that instrument is more of a big tenor. The Benge 165/190 used the 5B flare cut to 8.5" after all, and those are never considered anything but tenors.
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Massimo69
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by Massimo69 »

Mine have a large shank