Trombonists that play vintage Bach trombones (NY)

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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston » (edited 2024-11-04 7:05 p.m.)

Hi all,

I wanted to start a thread of all of the pro trombonists I know that are playing Bach trombones from any of the New York/MV eras 30s-60s. Here are the ones I am aware of, please add to the list:

Jay Friedman - MV42

Charlie Vernon - NY50

Mike Szabo - MV50

David Binder - MV42

Rick Stout - MV42

Christopher Davis - MV50

Brian Johnston - MV42

Athos Castellan - NY50

Micha Davis - MV50
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mbarbier
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by mbarbier »

Rick Stout in Cleveland plays a MV 42 (think he has one with a Thayer and one with original valve)
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

Are you including the Corp-era horns? Bach made some great horns during those years and, if an orchestral pro is playing one, it is probably one of them!
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="greenbean"]Are you including the Corp-era horns? Bach made some great horns during those years and, if an orchestral pro is playing one, it is probably one of them![/quote]

I wasn't originally, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to include those horns as well. As long as there is specification:

EX.:

NY50

MV50

Corp42
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biggiesmalls
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by biggiesmalls »

Chris Buckholz (Army Jazz Ambassadors lead trombone 1997-2005, currently 2nd trombone Santa Fe Opera) has been playing a MV12LT as his primary jazz horn for a few years.
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Vegasbound
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by Vegasbound »

Several top freelance players here in the UK play Bach 6’s such as Gordon Campbell,Richard Edwards plans a MT Vernon 16
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Pezza
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by Pezza »

I play a Corp 12!
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JoeAumann
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by JoeAumann »

Why?
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Matt_K
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by Matt_K »

You could add the recently retired Bones Malone but it would be easier to make a list of the horns he didn’t play from this era judging by the consignment sale of his horns that went down recently.
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="JoeAumann"]Why?[/quote]

Why not?
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PVH
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by PVH »

Brian,

I have been playing a NY36B for a while now. I have been enjoying it quite a bit.
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dukesboneman
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by dukesboneman »

I play a Mount Vernon Lt 36

and a 1st year elkhart 12 (Mount Vernon parts)
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Massimo69
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by Massimo69 »

Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.
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Fidbone
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by Fidbone »

[quote="Massimo69"]Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.[/quote]

Gordon has always played a Bach 6 which has been customised <span class="emoji" title=":wink:">😉</span>
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Oslide
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by Oslide »

Do you happen to know in which way it has been customised? Thank you!
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="Massimo69"]Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.[/quote]

Pretty sure he plays a Mt vernon 6...
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Fidbone
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by Fidbone »

[quote="Oslide"]Do you happen to know in which way it has been customised? Thank you![/quote]

He had the bell stays filled with lead :eek:
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Fidbone
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by Fidbone »

[quote="BrianJohnston"]<QUOTE author="Massimo69" post_id="194055" time="1668904981" user_id="11717">
Gordon Campbell plays a 16 bach corp.[/quote]

Pretty sure he plays a Mt vernon 6...
</QUOTE>

Could well be, last time I played his horn which was a long time ago it was a Corp with a 7.5 inch bell and lightweight nickel slide. One of the best 6's I've ever had the pleasure of blowing!
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Oslide
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by Oslide »

By chance just hit upon a very short (1:30) interview with Cordon Campbell where he mentions that he's playing a "Vincent Bach, an old Mount Vernon, V11 bell, original brass".

Took me a while to realize what he meant by "V one one" <span class="emoji" title=":wink:">😉</span> .

<YOUTUBE id="jYDqyer1vxA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYDqyer1vxA</YOUTUBE>
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Fidbone
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by Fidbone »

Must have changed bell's or full bone at some point.

I've not been with him since he had a full head of hair....... :shuffle:
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Massimo69
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by Massimo69 »

I seen on his bell 16 corporation anyway maybe mistake...
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Massimo69
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by Massimo69 »

Birch Johnson mod 6 with 16M slide, Tom Malone 16m mt vernon but he have around 20 of those, Bill Watrous played a Peppy's pettinato customized 16M 1940 bach.
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Massimo69
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by Massimo69 »

Carl Fontana played a 12 corp customized
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="Oslide"]By chance just hit upon a very short (1:30) interview with Cordon Campbell where he mentions that he's playing a "Vincent Bach, an old Mount Vernon, V11 bell, original brass".

Took me a while to realize what he meant by "V one one" <span class="emoji" title=":wink:">😉</span> .

<YOUTUBE id="jYDqyer1vxA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYDqyer1vxA</YOUTUBE>[/quote]

Thanks for this! He's got one of the best trombone sounds i've ever heard.
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gbedinger
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by gbedinger »

I now play an early Corp 50b.
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dukesboneman
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by dukesboneman »

I play NY 16, Corp. Lt12, Mount Vernon 12 slide with 1990 8G Bell, Mount Vernon Lt36, Corp. 42BO and Corp. 50B3.

I would love a NY 12
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="dukesboneman"]I play NY 16, Corp. Lt12, Mount Vernon 12 slide with 1990 8G Bell, Mount Vernon Lt36, Corp. 42BO and Corp. 50B3.

I would love a NY 12[/quote]

Nice list. I’d like a NY or MV34… someday.
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Finetales
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by Finetales »

Matt Niess (recently retired lead trombonist in the Army Blues) has played on an old Bach 6 forever - don't know what era though. Anyone know?
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robseaman
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by robseaman »

I think he is currently playing a Martin Imperial as his Jazz. Large bore he plays Edwards.
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Matt_K
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by Matt_K »

Yeah, he picked up that Martin at a pawn shop somewhere around 2010, IIRC. It's since been modified by BAC to have a modular F attachment / neckpipe and the Army star on the tuning slide.