FS:Getzen .525.-bore F-att trombone!

greenbean · 2022-09-10 1:49 a.m.

Here is a hard-to-find medium-bore Bb/F trombone from Getzen that is in mint condition. :good: Model 1025F. Very lightly played, red brass bell and tuning slides. In fact, the entire bell section is red brass - everything except the valve & knuckles and braces. The LINGUINI-THIN F-attachment tuning slide braces are yellow brass. The VERY WIDE handslide has yellow brass outer tubes and a nickel-silver crook. The horn is in tip-top shape and ergonomics are excellent. Comes in original case in very good condition. Now $1250 shipped in the US!

Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/bDyuPPLYGVE45M9X9

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2022-09-10 7:30 a.m.

Never heard of that one before, only the 725. Do you have pix. How does it compare to the 79h? Do you know the age? Cool horn!

greenbean · by **greenbean** » 2022-09-10 11:06 a.m.

I added photos above!...

I can't compare it to a 79H because I have only played a 79H for a few seconds. I do own one now but it is in the shop...

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2022-09-10 12:58 p.m.

Nice horn! Definitely newish. Interesting mouthpiece.

greenbean · by **greenbean** » 2022-09-10 2:00 p.m.

The Al Cass mouthpiece is definitely *not* included!

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2022-09-10 2:36 p.m.

Did this turn into the 1036 later? I've never heard of the 1025.

bassboneman69 · by **bassboneman69** » 2022-09-10 4:14 p.m.

I think the 725 is a closed wrap medium bore.

The 10xx (25/36) series is open wrap.

One has a dual bore slide and the other is straight .525.

The 725 may also have been yellow brass bell.

The 10xx series gave options for rose or yellow bell.

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2022-09-10 5:51 p.m.

[quote="bassboneman69"]I think the 725 is a closed wrap medium bore.

The 10xx (25/36) series is open wrap.

One has a dual bore slide and the other is straight .525.

The 725 may also have been yellow brass bell.

The 10xx series gave options for rose or yellow bell.[/quote]

The 725 is the dual bore .525-.547", and has a red brass bell. It used to be closed wrap (60H/71H/50H-style), but at some point they ~~[url=https://www.getzen.com/trombones/700-series/725-trombone/]~~switched it to open wrap. (However, the 747 (.547" version) is still closed wrap and has a yellow bell. I think that one is a more recent model.)

1025F and 1036F are both .525", open wrap, yellow bell. I've never seen a 1025FR or 1036FR (red bell) spec, but I wouldn't be surprised if they exist. The Getzen website only has the yellow 1036F.

As far as I can tell, the 1025F and 1036F are identical. All braces, ferrules, linkage, F wrap, etc. look the same to me.

greenbean · by **greenbean** » 2022-09-10 8:54 p.m.

Thanks, Finetales. The above is correct, to the best of my knowledge. I also noticed that this horn is stamped 1025F, even though it clearly has a red brass bell. So, perhaps this model was not available with a yellow brass bell and they didn't need to specify the bell material in the model #.

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2022-09-11 1:29 a.m.

There are yellow 1025Fs, ~~[url=https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM0cpEe3QFcfKLG1zQJK5QoSRCxz7_WLR2RlpgKvBX02GC_ju5bukrU1qS96vPoMQ?key=TGxzdGRQYUp6cDBuQ2ZoQU1XYWt0ZkJveTBXR2hn]~~here's one from an old TTF classified. Not sure why there's no difference in the markings - could have been a custom order. Based on what I've seen, I would guess that both models were only sold with a yellow bell and red brass examples were custom ordered. This would be a good question to ask Getzen!

There is next to nothing about the 1025F on the Internet (this thread has at least doubled the amount of content, no exaggeration), so it would be cool to get some more info on it from the source.

Matt_K · by **Matt_K** » 2022-09-11 6:27 a.m.

Wow yeah, archive.org has Getzen.com goign back to like 2003 and there's no mention of it there either.

Remington · by **Remington** » 2022-09-12 8:15 a.m.

I managed to find this:

"1025F & 1025FR ETERNA TROMBONE w/ F ATTACHMENT .525" Bore

(Discontinued production January 2002)"

pedrombon · by **pedrombon** » 2022-09-12 6:22 p.m.

Just today I saw an Allied spare parts catalog and the Getzen 1025F and 1025FR is there.

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2022-09-12 6:46 p.m.

Mystery solved!

greenbean · by **greenbean** » 2022-10-10 11:24 p.m.

Now $1250 shipped in the US.

dxhall · by **dxhall** » 2022-10-11 9:01 p.m.

Can you compare the sound and feel of this horn to a Bach 36b?

LeoInFL · by **LeoInFL** » 2022-10-11 10:17 p.m.

I owned a 1025F many years ago. I checked the spreadsheet where I keep track of all the horn/parts that I've bought & sold over the years and here's what I had:

Getzen 1025F, s/n #R1101, built in 1992 (I bought it in mint condition from the original owner), 8" yellow bell, 0.525" single bore slide.

greenbean · by **greenbean** » 2022-10-12 12:53 a.m.

[quote="dxhall"]Can you compare the sound and feel of this horn to a Bach 36b?[/quote]

There is no comparison! They are totally different. (As a point of reference, I think of 36's as very open-blowing, great projection, and warm sounding.) This horn feels smaller in the blow, for sure, and brighter sounding. It feels like a smaller horn than .525, honestly, like a .508 perhaps. Does it play like a 3B? No, but the sound is in that neighborhood and across town from the Bach 36 neighborhood.

NBischoff · by **NBischoff** » 2022-10-12 2:46 a.m.

My friend used to play a yellow 1025F. It was a great horn!

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