How to get a repair tech salivating ...
- Posaunus
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... <YOUTUBE id="E0LxkeIwVPw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0LxkeIwVPw</YOUTUBE>
- brassmedic
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"Can you take a couple dents out of my slide? Should be an easy fix..." Anyone who says, "should be an easy fix" gets charged double. Just kidding...maybe.
- ithinknot
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huh, I thought you had to hide salami somewhere in the case
- tbonesullivan
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Uggghhhh. At least most are straight horns, with two P-bones. I hate to think of what that kind of stress was doing to the one horn with an F-attachment.
- robcat2075
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I used to dream of doing that.
You practice it with pool noodles.
You practice it with pool noodles.
- JKno
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[quote="tbonesullivan"]Uggghhhh. At least most are straight horns, with two P-bones. I hate to think of what that kind of stress was doing to the one horn with an F-attachment.[/quote]
I counted 3 w/F... 2nd, 3rd and 5th from the left... And no... Hard pass on this with a decent brass bone. I would make my kid pony up the 2 Benjamins for the pBone for these shenanigans... I still wouldn't like it if they were the school instruments either.
I counted 3 w/F... 2nd, 3rd and 5th from the left... And no... Hard pass on this with a decent brass bone. I would make my kid pony up the 2 Benjamins for the pBone for these shenanigans... I still wouldn't like it if they were the school instruments either.
- OneTon
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The 2 Benjamin strategy may be a good step in the direction of getting a kid’s right brain talking to the left brain. Children and young adults do not possess an amygdala that is mature enough to deal with consequences of actions. It is a bad plan to thrust this sort of decision to participate or not participate on them, and could lead to a pattern of escalating behavior that is difficult to arrest. From the humanities perspective it ceases to be art.
- JohnL
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Did that one back in college; we called it a guillotine drill...
Years later, I was there to play with the alumni band; a few of us lined up, counted off, and ran the drill without a hitch (or a hit, for that matter).
After a little practice, it becomes muscle memory and it's just a matter of knowing whether you're supposed to duck first or turn first.
As for doing it with an f-attachment? I did it with an Olds P-24G. I still have that horn and the knuckles are still intact.
Years later, I was there to play with the alumni band; a few of us lined up, counted off, and ran the drill without a hitch (or a hit, for that matter).
After a little practice, it becomes muscle memory and it's just a matter of knowing whether you're supposed to duck first or turn first.
As for doing it with an f-attachment? I did it with an Olds P-24G. I still have that horn and the knuckles are still intact.
- elmsandr
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[quote="JKno"]<QUOTE author="tbonesullivan" post_id="189238" time="1663620326" user_id="7063">
Uggghhhh. At least most are straight horns, with two P-bones. I hate to think of what that kind of stress was doing to the one horn with an F-attachment.[/quote]
I counted 3 w/F... 2nd, 3rd and 5th from the left... And no... Hard pass on this with a decent brass bone. I would make my kid pony up the 2 Benjamins for the pBone for these shenanigans... I still wouldn't like it if they were the school instruments either.
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This isn’t a hard maneuver… they aren’t playing doing it, they don’t even really have to count together… there’s a drumline beating out a pretty strong cadence! They aren’t trying to move while doing it!
Call me when they want to try a countermarch like Texas A&M or some tight squad drill “patterns in motion” stuff…
I remember a couple of college bands that have a little ditty they play to go along with this… that would significantly up the degree of difficulty. Just this stationary dance? Neat and fun, but should not be dangerous to people or horns to any group that does most any marching drills.
Like John noted, this can be muscle memory without thought.
Cheers,
Andy
Uggghhhh. At least most are straight horns, with two P-bones. I hate to think of what that kind of stress was doing to the one horn with an F-attachment.[/quote]
I counted 3 w/F... 2nd, 3rd and 5th from the left... And no... Hard pass on this with a decent brass bone. I would make my kid pony up the 2 Benjamins for the pBone for these shenanigans... I still wouldn't like it if they were the school instruments either.
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This isn’t a hard maneuver… they aren’t playing doing it, they don’t even really have to count together… there’s a drumline beating out a pretty strong cadence! They aren’t trying to move while doing it!
Call me when they want to try a countermarch like Texas A&M or some tight squad drill “patterns in motion” stuff…
I remember a couple of college bands that have a little ditty they play to go along with this… that would significantly up the degree of difficulty. Just this stationary dance? Neat and fun, but should not be dangerous to people or horns to any group that does most any marching drills.
Like John noted, this can be muscle memory without thought.
Cheers,
Andy
- Posaunus
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And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:
- sacfxdx
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[quote="Posaunus"]And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
… expensive.
… expensive.
- OneTon
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[quote="sacfxdx"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="189369" time="1663777566" user_id="158">
And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
… expensive.
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Or tragic: Remember what is on the end of the outer slide and the arc it travels. Spread the kids a minimum six feet apart. Then it is a nice display, no one gets hurt, and the only damage occurs to horns other than Olds, with f attachments.
And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
… expensive.
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Or tragic: Remember what is on the end of the outer slide and the arc it travels. Spread the kids a minimum six feet apart. Then it is a nice display, no one gets hurt, and the only damage occurs to horns other than Olds, with f attachments.
- elmsandr
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[quote="Posaunus"]And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
Probably less than falling off a bike?
These kids are old enough to drive, probably less than a similar failure there?
Cheers,
Andy
Probably less than falling off a bike?
These kids are old enough to drive, probably less than a similar failure there?
Cheers,
Andy
- sungfw
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[quote="Posaunus"]And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
A ruined trombone, an idiot gets dope-slapped, and a million YT viewers get to rag on a bunch of a-clowns. Sounds like everybody wins. :twisted:
A ruined trombone, an idiot gets dope-slapped, and a million YT viewers get to rag on a bunch of a-clowns. Sounds like everybody wins. :twisted:
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="sungfw"]A ruined trombone, an idiot gets dope-slapped, and a million YT viewers get to rag on a bunch of a-clowns. Sounds like everybody wins. :twisted:[/quote] The two trombones that collide certainly don't...
- OneTon
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[quote="sungfw"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="189369" time="1663777566" user_id="158">
And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
A ruined trombone, an idiot gets dope-slapped, and a million YT viewers get to rag on a bunch of a-clowns. Sounds like everybody wins. :twisted:
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Would that it were those are the sum total of the consequences. A trombone water key could cause irreparable damage to an eye. I have known two children for whom the loss of an eye was a life ruining experience. Lay people don’t realize that circuses and movies most often use props that have been prepared for the stunt to minimize risk and damage. Even their processes can go horribly wrong as it did for Halyna Hutchins on the “Rust” set.
And the consequences of one wrong move / muscle memory failure are ...? :horror:[/quote]
A ruined trombone, an idiot gets dope-slapped, and a million YT viewers get to rag on a bunch of a-clowns. Sounds like everybody wins. :twisted:
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Would that it were those are the sum total of the consequences. A trombone water key could cause irreparable damage to an eye. I have known two children for whom the loss of an eye was a life ruining experience. Lay people don’t realize that circuses and movies most often use props that have been prepared for the stunt to minimize risk and damage. Even their processes can go horribly wrong as it did for Halyna Hutchins on the “Rust” set.