King 2B+ valve section
- Jimbbob
- Posts: 79
- Joined: Oct 10, 2019
So I have a King 2B+ as my main small bore now. Great horn, 2007, or so. I recently sold a Yamaha 356G and am already missing the flexibility of this size horn with trigger.
I guess my main question:
Could I pair the 2B+ .500 bore slide with a bell with F attachment? It sounds like my options would be a 3BF or possibly 607F? Would there be any tuning issues with this combo?
My 2B+ has a yellow brass bell, and is very lively. Is there a model, or perhaps era of horn that might darken or tame the 2B+ just a tad? Would be great to have 2 options, (straight and trigger), to mate with this slide.
Thanks for any insight and any advice.
I guess my main question:
Could I pair the 2B+ .500 bore slide with a bell with F attachment? It sounds like my options would be a 3BF or possibly 607F? Would there be any tuning issues with this combo?
My 2B+ has a yellow brass bell, and is very lively. Is there a model, or perhaps era of horn that might darken or tame the 2B+ just a tad? Would be great to have 2 options, (straight and trigger), to mate with this slide.
Thanks for any insight and any advice.
- MrHCinDE
- Posts: 1039
- Joined: Jul 01, 2018
I sometimes use a 0.500” slide from a Benge 170 with a 3B/F bell section. Intonation is good, overall it works well, even if I haven’t found many applications for it yet.
Your 2B+ slide should have the same connector as my Benge 170 and should correctly fit a 3B/F receiver, but not a 607F.
Your 2B+ slide should have the same connector as my Benge 170 and should correctly fit a 3B/F receiver, but not a 607F.
- JohnL
- Posts: 2529
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
A fairly comprehensive list:
[quote="Klimchak"]2B/Jiggs/old single bore Liberty/605/older tempo with 7.5” nickle bell are compatible
3B/2B+/606/Benge 170/Tempo with 8” nickel bell are compatible
3B+/607/608/609/Benge 160,175 are compatible
4B/5B/Benge 165 and 190 are compatible
Different tenons between each series, so some mods would have to be done to put a 3B slide on a 3B+ bell section[/quote]
[quote="Klimchak"]2B/Jiggs/old single bore Liberty/605/older tempo with 7.5” nickle bell are compatible
3B/2B+/606/Benge 170/Tempo with 8” nickel bell are compatible
3B+/607/608/609/Benge 160,175 are compatible
4B/5B/Benge 165 and 190 are compatible
Different tenons between each series, so some mods would have to be done to put a 3B slide on a 3B+ bell section[/quote]
- Matt_K
- Posts: 4809
- Joined: Mar 21, 2018
I’m about to list my 605F which sounds like it might be what you’re looking for. Closer to a. 2B+ with a valve but with an unsoldered bell bead so it isn’t quite as lively. Send me a message if you’re interested and it’ll excel my picture taking and listing !
- JLivi
- Posts: 870
- Joined: May 10, 2018
If you get rid of your 2b+ bell let me know! I've been looking for a 7.5" bell to pair with my 3b slide.
- Matt_K
- Posts: 4809
- Joined: Mar 21, 2018
Got your pm will respond later today
[quote="JLivi"]If you get rid of your 2b+ bell let me know! I've been looking for a 7.5" bell to pair with my 3b slide.[/quote]
I’ve got 2 7.5” king bells. One has a bell section but it’s not setup for that slide but I can get it to you at a good price. Original plan was to put it on a franken 485/500 but I like my 607F too much. Don’t think I’ll ever get to the project. One is silver plated the other is lacquered.
[quote="JLivi"]If you get rid of your 2b+ bell let me know! I've been looking for a 7.5" bell to pair with my 3b slide.[/quote]
I’ve got 2 7.5” king bells. One has a bell section but it’s not setup for that slide but I can get it to you at a good price. Original plan was to put it on a franken 485/500 but I like my 607F too much. Don’t think I’ll ever get to the project. One is silver plated the other is lacquered.