Alain Trudel vs Peter Sullivan mouthpiece

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-10 7:15 p.m.

Hello team,

I'm using in my tenor trombone Alain Trudel mouthpiece and I'm interesting to buy Peter Sullivan mouthpiece.

What is your opinion between of these??

I mean about articulation, flexibilities etc.

Thanks a lot!!!

craign · by **craign** » 2023-04-10 9:55 p.m.

I have a Peter Sullivan I don't use I can sell you. I'm in the USA so there would be some postage costs. Will send a PM.

craign · by **craign** » 2023-04-10 9:56 p.m.

Looks like you don't have enough posts yet to PM.

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-11 1:31 a.m.

Craign thanks for your suggestion but before to buy it, I want to know about Sullivan mouthpiece how response in articulation, flexibilities, etc.

BGuttman · by **BGuttman** » 2023-04-11 2:23 a.m.

[quote="nkoukouvinos"]Craign thanks for your suggestion but before to buy it, I want to know about Sullivan mouthpiece how response in articulation, flexibilities, etc.[/quote]

We (not me) can tell you if it's wider, narrower, deeper, shallower, and perhaps differences in rim shape. How that will affect you is impossible to predict. Some people will suggest a lesson with an embouchure specialist; others will suggest just getting the thing and trying for yourself. If you are a relative newbie to playing it won't make much difference -- more practice will be of more use than a big box full of mouthpieces.

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-11 2:37 a.m.

Thanks

craign · by **craign** » 2023-04-11 11:34 a.m.

I've only played the Peter Sullivan briefly, but for me there was not a lot of obvious difference/benefit to what I was already using (6 1/2 AL), so I stuck with that. Per Bruce, I don't think the mouthpiece is a limiter for me at this point.

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-11 12:46 p.m.

Thanks craign.

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2023-04-12 10:48 p.m.

I don't think you will find a great difference between these two well-made Yamaha signature mouthpieces.

Compared to your Alain Trudel, the Peter Sullivan has a slightly larger Cup I.D., but (I think) a somewhat shallower Cup); similar Throat diameter but a broader Backbore. The Sullivan's Rim is not as rounded as the Trudel. Playing them, you probably won't notice a huge change, though they are indeed "different." Both are fine products from Yamaha.

"Articulation, flexibilities, etc." - since these pieces are somewhat similar, probably as much user-dependent as mouthpiece-dependent. We all interact with our equipment differently.

Why are you interested in changing?

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-13 2:36 a.m.

Thanks a lot Posaunus. I was interested to check if they have difference just to try something else. After your post I don't think so to buy it. Thanks again!!!

MStarke · by **MStarke** » 2023-04-13 5:24 a.m.

I cannot compare them as I do not have the Sullivan.

However the Trudel is a really nice mouthpiece, if the relatively small rim diameter works for you.

In my opinion it does indeed (I think that's more or less how they advertise it) have a nice combination of relatively full sound but still easy high register. As said if the rim suits you.

Seems to work very well for him at least!

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-13 6:17 a.m.

Thank you MStarke!!!

LeTromboniste · by **LeTromboniste** » 2023-04-13 10:49 a.m.

Yes, if a 6.5 size is good for you, and if the rim profile is a good fit for you, the Trudel can be a killer mouthpiece. I started my studies on one, eventually moved to somewhat larger pieces and other designs, but I always ended up coming back to it every couple of years.

nkoukouvinos · by **nkoukouvinos** » 2023-04-13 10:54 a.m.

Ok, thank you LeTromboniste.

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