Unknown King Trombone Model
- shagiTrombone
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Hello! I was wondering if anyone could help me identify what model King this is based off the design of the counterweight? Serial number looks to date it around early 1900s? And any bell engravings that might've been there are gone.
<IMGUR id="a/6b7BaZ5">https://imgur.com/a/6b7BaZ5</IMGUR>
I've only been able to find 1 other online where someone labeled it as a 606, but I'm not sure if that's actually it, since I couldn't find any other 606s with that counterweight.
Thank you! :D
<IMGUR id="a/6b7BaZ5">https://imgur.com/a/6b7BaZ5</IMGUR>
I've only been able to find 1 other online where someone labeled it as a 606, but I'm not sure if that's actually it, since I couldn't find any other 606s with that counterweight.
Thank you! :D
- Doug_Elliott
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I edited so the image would show
That is a relatively modern counterweight...
If it really is an early 1900's horn that counterweight means nothing, it was added later.
Show the rest of the horn.
That is a relatively modern counterweight...
If it really is an early 1900's horn that counterweight means nothing, it was added later.
Show the rest of the horn.
- EriKon
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- Joined: Apr 03, 2022
[quote="shagiTrombone"]Hello! I was wondering if anyone could help me identify what model King this is based off the design of the counterweight? Serial number looks to date it around early 1900s? And any bell engravings that might've been there are gone.
<IMGUR id="a/6b7BaZ5">https://imgur.com/a/6b7BaZ5</IMGUR>
I've only been able to find 1 other online where someone labeled it as a 606, but I'm not sure if that's actually it, since I couldn't find any other 606s with that counterweight.
Thank you! :D[/quote]
Don't forget that King started over with their serial numbers at some point and went back to 1xx.xxx after 9xx.xxx
That was at some point around the 1980s where this counterweight was used as well. I have a mid 80s 3B which has this exact counterweight and it's original, serial number 1xx.xxx
<IMGUR id="a/6b7BaZ5">https://imgur.com/a/6b7BaZ5</IMGUR>
I've only been able to find 1 other online where someone labeled it as a 606, but I'm not sure if that's actually it, since I couldn't find any other 606s with that counterweight.
Thank you! :D[/quote]
Don't forget that King started over with their serial numbers at some point and went back to 1xx.xxx after 9xx.xxx
That was at some point around the 1980s where this counterweight was used as well. I have a mid 80s 3B which has this exact counterweight and it's original, serial number 1xx.xxx
- shagiTrombone
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- Joined: Apr 23, 2023
[quote="Doug Elliott"]I edited so the image would show
That is a relatively modern counterweight...
If it really is an early 1900's horn that counterweight means nothing, it was added later.
Show the rest of the horn.[/quote]
Sorry to make you have to reformat the image - was it something I did wrong, or something that will just come along after I get full access to tbone chat?
Anyways, here's a full pic of the trombone:
As far as dating the horn, I think I mistook the part number for the bell section as the serial number, though I can't find an actual serial number anywhere else.
Thanks!
That is a relatively modern counterweight...
If it really is an early 1900's horn that counterweight means nothing, it was added later.
Show the rest of the horn.[/quote]
Sorry to make you have to reformat the image - was it something I did wrong, or something that will just come along after I get full access to tbone chat?
Anyways, here's a full pic of the trombone:
As far as dating the horn, I think I mistook the part number for the bell section as the serial number, though I can't find an actual serial number anywhere else.
Thanks!
- BGuttman
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I fixed your image cite. The horn looks like a King 606. Good beginner horn. Fine for a casual player or for those gigs where you fear for the safety of an expensive custom horn. Valuable? Not much. But a good player nonetheless.
- harrisonreed
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That is probably from the 80s or 90s, judging by the counterweight and case. Definitely not from the early 1900s, though the 90s seem like they were that long ago.
Kings from the early 1900's look like this:
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<ATTACHMENT filename="94551 Artist Trombone Picture 2.jpg" index="1">[attachment=1]94551 Artist Trombone Picture 2.jpg</ATTACHMENT>
<ATTACHMENT filename="94551 Artist Trombone Picture 1.jpg" index="0">[attachment=0]94551 Artist Trombone Picture 1.jpg</ATTACHMENT>
They don't make them like that any more.
Kings from the early 1900's look like this:
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<ATTACHMENT filename="94551 Artist Trombone Picture 2.jpg" index="1">
<ATTACHMENT filename="94551 Artist Trombone Picture 1.jpg" index="0">
They don't make them like that any more.
- ithinknot
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[quote="shagiTrombone"]Anyways, here's a full pic of the trombone:[/quote]
It's a 606, and your slide is upside down and will continue to dent the bell. Longest part (the tenon) goes next to the case hinge.
It's a 606, and your slide is upside down and will continue to dent the bell. Longest part (the tenon) goes next to the case hinge.
- shagiTrombone
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- Joined: Apr 23, 2023
[quote="BGuttman"]I fixed your image cite. The horn looks like a King 606. Good beginner horn. Fine for a casual player or for those gigs where you fear for the safety of an expensive custom horn. Valuable? Not much. But a good player nonetheless.[/quote]
Still confused as to why my images wont work, oh well - thanks for the reply! After playing on the same 2 horns for years and years, I'm only starting to look for more options, so the info is much appreciated.
Still confused as to why my images wont work, oh well - thanks for the reply! After playing on the same 2 horns for years and years, I'm only starting to look for more options, so the info is much appreciated.
- BGuttman
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[quote="shagiTrombone"]<QUOTE author="BGuttman" post_id="208355" time="1682417218" user_id="53">
I fixed your image cite. The horn looks like a King 606. Good beginner horn. Fine for a casual player or for those gigs where you fear for the safety of an expensive custom horn. Valuable? Not much. But a good player nonetheless.[/quote]
Still confused as to why my images wont work, oh well - thanks for the reply! After playing on the same 2 horns for years and years, I'm only starting to look for more options, so the info is much appreciated.
</QUOTE>
It appears you forgot to include the file type extension on your file (the .jpg). The way I do it is to right click on the image, select "Copy Image Address", and then paste the address between the IMG tags.
I fixed your image cite. The horn looks like a King 606. Good beginner horn. Fine for a casual player or for those gigs where you fear for the safety of an expensive custom horn. Valuable? Not much. But a good player nonetheless.[/quote]
Still confused as to why my images wont work, oh well - thanks for the reply! After playing on the same 2 horns for years and years, I'm only starting to look for more options, so the info is much appreciated.
</QUOTE>
It appears you forgot to include the file type extension on your file (the .jpg). The way I do it is to right click on the image, select "Copy Image Address", and then paste the address between the IMG tags.
- Doug_Elliott
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I took out the IMG tags, and then it showed the image.
I don't really know how it works, I just guessed.
I don't really know how it works, I just guessed.
- shagiTrombone
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- Joined: Apr 23, 2023
[quote="BGuttman"]
It appears you forgot to include the file type extension on your file (the .jpg). The way I do it is to right click on the image, select "Copy Image Address", and then paste the address between the IMG tags.[/quote]
Ah cool! That's much better than having to put it through an image hosting site.
It appears you forgot to include the file type extension on your file (the .jpg). The way I do it is to right click on the image, select "Copy Image Address", and then paste the address between the IMG tags.[/quote]
Ah cool! That's much better than having to put it through an image hosting site.