Leadpipe Can't Be Pulled
- Bonephilly
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- Joined: Aug 20, 2018
I took my 2b jiggs to Dillons to have the leadpipe pulled. The tech said he'll try, but he rarely is successful pulling pipes. Well, he tried and said it didn't budge. I really want the pipe pulled. I have a replacement pipe ready to go. What other options do I have?
- Burgerbob
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- Joined: Apr 23, 2018
Get a new upper tube and have the whole slide rebuilt around it.
- ithinknot
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[quote="Bonephilly"]The tech said he'll try, but he rarely is successful pulling pipes.[/quote]
Could be expectation management, but "rarely" doesn't sound great
Anyway, King parts are pretty cheap so get a new tube AND cork barrel, and then you can have the original or new setups swapped with a single solder joint
Could be expectation management, but "rarely" doesn't sound great
Anyway, King parts are pretty cheap so get a new tube AND cork barrel, and then you can have the original or new setups swapped with a single solder joint
- Crazy4Tbone86
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Are you getting a removable leadpipe system installed? That’s a different beast altogether. If yes, then you need to order a longer inner tube and have the mouthpiece receiver part of the leadpipe (those King leadpipes are actually two separate components) turned down on a lathe so that it fits inside the new inner tube.
- greenbean
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- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
Try another tech.
I know a tech who "usually" gets them out and another who "always" gets them out.
I know a tech who "usually" gets them out and another who "always" gets them out.
- brassmedic
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Is there someone else you can take it to? Sucessfully pulling the pipe on a 2B shouldn't be a rare occurrence.
- imsevimse
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What does "successfully" mean in this case. My tech said he "could not promise my pipe to come out in one piece" and it didn't, but I said it did not need to come out in one piece. It was a successful removal in my book, but this pipe was useless, it was rotten. It was a very old New York Bach 6 model VII. Think the leadpipe I replaced it with was from the Hornguys.
/Tom
/Tom
- tbonesullivan
- Posts: 1959
- Joined: Jul 02, 2019
I've seen Landress brass in NYC post videos / pictures of pulling a trombone leadpipe, so maybe try contacting them. There are also many techs that you could box up the slide and send it to.
- WGWTR180
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- Joined: Sep 04, 2019
[quote="brassmedic"]Is there someone else you can take it to? Sucessfully pulling the pipe on a 2B shouldn't be a rare occurrence.[/quote]
I agree! The times I've had it done on an older instrument took patience and time.
I agree! The times I've had it done on an older instrument took patience and time.
- Bonearzt
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- Joined: Mar 22, 2018
[quote="brassmedic"]Is there someone else you can take it to? Sucessfully pulling the pipe on a 2B shouldn't be a rare occurrence.[/quote]
There is almost NEVER a guarantee that a leadpipe will come out intact!
Especially if it's in an older horn!
Time and use fuses the EXTREMELY thin leadpipe to the inside of the inner tube.
Sometimes you can peel the inner tube away from the leadpipe, necessitating a new inner tube, but that too is never a guarantee that the leadpipe will survive!
There is almost NEVER a guarantee that a leadpipe will come out intact!
Especially if it's in an older horn!
Time and use fuses the EXTREMELY thin leadpipe to the inside of the inner tube.
Sometimes you can peel the inner tube away from the leadpipe, necessitating a new inner tube, but that too is never a guarantee that the leadpipe will survive!
- brassmedic
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[quote="Bonearzt"]<QUOTE author="brassmedic" post_id="209322" time="1683412357" user_id="4102">
Is there someone else you can take it to? Sucessfully pulling the pipe on a 2B shouldn't be a rare occurrence.[/quote]
There is almost NEVER a guarantee that a leadpipe will come out intact!
Especially if it's in an older horn!
Time and use fuses the EXTREMELY thin leadpipe to the inside of the inner tube.
Sometimes you can peel the inner tube away from the leadpipe, necessitating a new inner tube, but that too is never a guarantee that the leadpipe will survive!
</QUOTE>
I didn't say it was a guarantee. But to say it's "rare" for a leadpipe to come out intact is just plain false. I'm sure I have at least a 90% success rate. It can take a great deal of patience if it's an old horn, though.
Is there someone else you can take it to? Sucessfully pulling the pipe on a 2B shouldn't be a rare occurrence.[/quote]
There is almost NEVER a guarantee that a leadpipe will come out intact!
Especially if it's in an older horn!
Time and use fuses the EXTREMELY thin leadpipe to the inside of the inner tube.
Sometimes you can peel the inner tube away from the leadpipe, necessitating a new inner tube, but that too is never a guarantee that the leadpipe will survive!
</QUOTE>
I didn't say it was a guarantee. But to say it's "rare" for a leadpipe to come out intact is just plain false. I'm sure I have at least a 90% success rate. It can take a great deal of patience if it's an old horn, though.