Valve Trombone Options Today
- derekcgullett
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- Joined: Nov 07, 2020
Hey everyone! I’m trying to compile a list of all of the options we have in valve trombones nowadays. Considering going down the rabbit hole and getting one at some point (not too soon, though).
I’ll start with what I know off the top of my head:
- King 2166/3B
- Yamaha YSL-354V
- Conn 6H/5G
- Getzen 998
I know I’m missing some pretty obvious ones probably, so feel free to add other options and your thoughts!
Also, is there such a thing as a large-bore valve trombone (that isn’t a cimbasso)? Never heard of one and there very well might not be much use for one, but it’s cool to think about.
I’ll start with what I know off the top of my head:
- King 2166/3B
- Yamaha YSL-354V
- Conn 6H/5G
- Getzen 998
I know I’m missing some pretty obvious ones probably, so feel free to add other options and your thoughts!
Also, is there such a thing as a large-bore valve trombone (that isn’t a cimbasso)? Never heard of one and there very well might not be much use for one, but it’s cool to think about.
- brassmedic
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- Joined: Dec 14, 2018
The Conn 90G was large bore, but for valve trombones being manufactured currently, I don't know.
- greenbean
- Posts: 1958
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
—Bach 16V
There is also a Jupiter.
And most of the European makers offer them, often in a larger bore. Cerveny, Lidl, Miraphone, …
There is also a Jupiter.
And most of the European makers offer them, often in a larger bore. Cerveny, Lidl, Miraphone, …
- harrisonreed
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- Joined: Aug 17, 2018
The Holton Superbone
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.virtuosityboston.com/holton ... mbone.html">https://www.virtuosityboston.com/holton-superbone-tenor-trombone.html</LINK_TEXT>
Still can be had...
The Wessex Superbone also exists, which is medium dual bore:
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The schagerl version also is out there but it's many times the price of these two.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.virtuosityboston.com/holton ... mbone.html">https://www.virtuosityboston.com/holton-superbone-tenor-trombone.html</LINK_TEXT>
Still can be had...
The Wessex Superbone also exists, which is medium dual bore:
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.wessex-tubas.com/products/s ... bone-pb930">https://www.wessex-tubas.com/products/superbone-valve-slide-trombone-pb930</LINK_TEXT>
The schagerl version also is out there but it's many times the price of these two.
- ithinknot
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- Joined: Jul 24, 2020
Jinbao and the many names by which she is known
Lots of rotaries from European makers, but assuming you're talking piston then Kühnl & Hoyer and Amati
King 2B and 3B valve sections are the same .481, only the tenon changes
Lots of rotaries from European makers, but assuming you're talking piston then Kühnl & Hoyer and Amati
King 2B and 3B valve sections are the same .481, only the tenon changes
- greenbean
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Side note: I have one of a handful of piston valve trombones that Miraphone made in the 1970s. Nice playing horn!
- hyperbolica
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- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
Olds made a valve bone. And I'm sure Weril (Brazil) made one. Valve bones are big in south America. Plus, you can get larger valve trombones from Germany. They often have 4 rotary valves. Wessex makes them in Bb and C.
Plus the flugabone type things are called compact marching valve trombones, and I'd include the trombonium and variants in that group.
Plus the flugabone type things are called compact marching valve trombones, and I'd include the trombonium and variants in that group.
- JohnL
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- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="derekcgullett"]Also, is there such a thing as a large-bore valve trombone (that isn’t a cimbasso)? Never heard of one and there very well might not be much use for one, but it’s cool to think about.[/quote]
AFAIK, the only large (i.e., .547" or greater) bore valve trombone that was ever a catalog item is the DEG "Jazzbone".
<LINK_TEXT text="https://reverb.com/item/6220148-vintage ... -80s-brass">https://reverb.com/item/6220148-vintage-rare-deg-dynasty-jazzbone-marching-trombo-jazzbone-80s-brass</LINK_TEXT>
They're quite rare and, to be honest, don't have a very good reputation.
AFAIK, the only large (i.e., .547" or greater) bore valve trombone that was ever a catalog item is the DEG "Jazzbone".
<LINK_TEXT text="https://reverb.com/item/6220148-vintage ... -80s-brass">https://reverb.com/item/6220148-vintage-rare-deg-dynasty-jazzbone-marching-trombo-jazzbone-80s-brass</LINK_TEXT>
They're quite rare and, to be honest, don't have a very good reputation.
- Finetales
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- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
I didn't know the Jazzbone had a .547" bore. Makes me wonder if the Dynasty II trombonium bugles were also .547".
- JohnL
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- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="Finetales"]I didn't know the Jazzbone had a .547" bore. Makes me wonder if the Dynasty II trombonium bugles were also .547".[/quote]
I said .547" or greater; the Jazzbone is, AFAIK, .562".
I said .547" or greater; the Jazzbone is, AFAIK, .562".
- NBischoff
- Posts: 95
- Joined: Jun 04, 2018
Thein offers tenor and bass valve trombones
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<LINK_TEXT text="https://thein-brass.de/en/instrument/te ... -trombone/">https://thein-brass.de/en/instrument/tenor-valve-trombone/</LINK_TEXT>
<LINK_TEXT text="https://thein-brass.de/en/instrument/ba ... -trombone/">https://thein-brass.de/en/instrument/bass-valve-trombone/</LINK_TEXT>