How do these compare in spec? Is the Bach a bit smaller by comparison?

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks

I see under Greg Black’s Legend series he makes a JW model. Essentially the 7C with larger .234 throat.

Anyone know who JW is?

Jiggs Wigham

[quote="gregwaits"]How do these compare in spec? Is the Bach a bit smaller by comparison?

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks[/quote]

The Black is significantly larger to my chops. Even Greg's 9c feels a bit bigger than my MV 7C.

I like the Black 9c, a LOT. I like the 7c too; I felt the 9c gave me more punchiness-- the 7c is one of the most nimble mouthpieces I've owned. The 9c specifically allows for agility at volume, which I dig.

I personally felt like I wasn't getting enough support from the 7c in a "loud live" setting, but if I recall you're a 6 3/4c guy; you might fit right into it.

My "gripe" with GB pieces is that they sound exactly like whatever they want to sound like. It's a great sound though. My Bach 7cs are variable; the one I like best (the MV), has more mids than the GB, but it's not as agile or comfortable. Hopefully that makes sense!

[quote="TromboneMonkey"]<QUOTE author="gregwaits" post_id="212820" time="1687031375" user_id="58">
How do these compare in spec? Is the Bach a bit smaller by comparison?

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks[/quote]

The Black is significantly larger to my chops. Even Greg's 9c feels a bit bigger than my MV 7C.

I like the Black 9c, a LOT. I like the 7c too; I felt the 9c gave me more punchiness-- the 7c is one of the most nimble mouthpieces I've owned. The 9c specifically allows for agility at volume, which I dig.

I personally felt like I wasn't getting enough support from the 7c in a "loud live" setting, but if I recall you're a 6 3/4c guy; you might fit right into it.

My "gripe" with GB pieces is that they sound exactly like whatever they want to sound like. It's a great sound though. My Bach 7cs are variable; the one I like best (the MV), has more mids than the GB, but it's not as agile or comfortable. Hopefully that makes sense!
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Thanks for the observations. We’re on vacation right now (returning from Hawaii tomorrow), and I know the mouthpiece is waiting on me. <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">😁</EMOJI>

[quote="TromboneMonkey"]My "gripe" with GB pieces is that they sound exactly like whatever they want to sound like. It's a great sound though. My Bach 7cs are variable; the one I like best (the MV), has more mids than the GB, but it's not as agile or comfortable. Hopefully that makes sense![/quote]
I thought the same when I got into his small-shank mouthpieces. I got myself a light blank version and even those are slightly heavier than his bass piece I play in medium weight. I feel like that's what keeps you from changing the sound and/or attacks pretty much at all without cranking up the dynamic level past a musically acceptable point. I then gave the Futuro version a shot and found the weight reduction in that blank allowed much easier access to different tone colors and attack shapes. Other than a slight reduction in the effortless focus/centering present in the heavier blank I find the Futuro to be a much, much more flexible sounding mouthpiece.