Unwanted multiphonic on tenor
- PiccoloTrombonist1
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After playing piccolo trombone for a while, i got used to the mouthpiece and buzzing differently. However, i still needed to practice tenor trombone, which for whatever reason i hadnt played in a while. Whenever i play notes (specifically notes above F4), i have to change mr embouchure to allow air to flow correctly. However, when i make this change, i get a multiphonic like sound. Not as in horn growl, but almost like 2 out-of-tune trumpets trying to play louder than the other trumpet. Is there any way to adjust my embouchure, or some other change i could make to avoid this?
- harrisonreed
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You should get a lesson
- Vegasbound
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[quote="Burgerbob"]Sounds like a double buzz. Keep that lower lip firm![/quote][quote="harrisonreed"]You should get a lesson[/quote]
Have a Skype lesson with DE :clever:
Have a Skype lesson with DE :clever:
- ALT
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[quote="Burgerbob"]Keep that lower lip firm![/quote]
What does this even mean?
What does this even mean?
- Burgerbob
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[quote="ALT"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="217133" time="1691381960" user_id="3131">
Keep that lower lip firm![/quote]
What does this even mean?
</QUOTE>
For most players, the upper lip is doing the real buzzing while the lower lip is being buzzed on, like a single reed instrument.
Keep that lower lip firm![/quote]
What does this even mean?
</QUOTE>
For most players, the upper lip is doing the real buzzing while the lower lip is being buzzed on, like a single reed instrument.
- harrisonreed
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Yeah when you get a lip multiphonic, both lips are vibrating different pitches.
- SkylarsTbone
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[quote="Burgerbob"]Sounds like a double buzz. Keep that lower lip firm![/quote]
Thank you for this!!! I was practicing my solo and my A kept making strange buzzing sounds, which I later learned were multiphonics. I was paying zero attention to my lower lip whilst playing, so this really was a lifesaver.
Thank you for this!!! I was practicing my solo and my A kept making strange buzzing sounds, which I later learned were multiphonics. I was paying zero attention to my lower lip whilst playing, so this really was a lifesaver.
- Kbiggs
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Yes, a double-buzz often means that when a person who plays with more upper lip in the mouthpiece (Doug’s very high placement or high placement) doesn’t keep their lower lip firm enough, they can get that double-buzz. Sometimes, it can also be due to the mouthpiece placement being off, usually a little too low. For me, it was a combination of both.
I think that for people who play with more lower lip in the mouthpiece it’s just the opposite, but I’d check with Doug.
I think that for people who play with more lower lip in the mouthpiece it’s just the opposite, but I’d check with Doug.
- blap73
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I'll concur that having your MP placement slip a bit will aggravate / cause double-buzz.
I was having this happen a lot in concert situations, later in the program as I got tired. The quick fix was to stop playing, remove horn from face, re-set, and proceed. A very small shift from where I would normally have the MP would trip me up. Also I found that going back to a bit smaller rim diameter gave less problems.
It's a hugely frustrating experience when you are stuck in it.
Also suggest you Google Donald S. Reinhardt "pivot system"
I was having this happen a lot in concert situations, later in the program as I got tired. The quick fix was to stop playing, remove horn from face, re-set, and proceed. A very small shift from where I would normally have the MP would trip me up. Also I found that going back to a bit smaller rim diameter gave less problems.
It's a hugely frustrating experience when you are stuck in it.
Also suggest you Google Donald S. Reinhardt "pivot system"
- trombonePlayer48
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[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="ALT" post_id="217151" time="1691408100" user_id="3409">
What does this even mean?[/quote]
For most players, the upper lip is doing the real buzzing while the lower lip is being buzzed on, like a single reed instrument.
</QUOTE>
This is what helped me, thanks a lot!
What does this even mean?[/quote]
For most players, the upper lip is doing the real buzzing while the lower lip is being buzzed on, like a single reed instrument.
</QUOTE>
This is what helped me, thanks a lot!