Bass Trombone mouthpiece selection help
- Ttuer
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I am getting my son a bass trombone and not sure what is best mouthpiece size for him. He currently plays on a Schilke 47G4 but know he will need something much larger. Should I start him on a Bach 3G or something more like 1.5? Thanks
- Posaunus
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If the 1-1/2G seems slightly large for him, a good (readily available) option for a bass trombone beginner would be a Schilke 58 or a Bach 2G.
- Kbiggs
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It depends on what will fit him. One approach (“old school” ) might say something like, “Everyone starts on a 1 1/2G. Many people stay with it. Let him get started, then wait a few years.”
Another approach might say something like, “Let’s try him on a few mouthpieces to see what fits for now. As he develops, he might need something larger or smaller.”
Age, mouth structure, facial musculature, and other things all make a difference. And if his current tenor mouthpiece is a 47C4, any bass mouthpiece will feel huge.
Another approach might say something like, “Let’s try him on a few mouthpieces to see what fits for now. As he develops, he might need something larger or smaller.”
Age, mouth structure, facial musculature, and other things all make a difference. And if his current tenor mouthpiece is a 47C4, any bass mouthpiece will feel huge.
- JeffBone44
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When I first switched to bass, I started on a 1 1/2G. It felt huge compared to the tenor mouthpieces I was used to, so I went to a 2G for a few months.
Most people say to start on a 1 1/2G or 2G. I think that's very good advice.
Most people say to start on a 1 1/2G or 2G. I think that's very good advice.
- tbonesullivan
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Faxx 1 1/2 G is what I started on. Almost the same as a Bach 1 1/2G, but cheaper. It has the regular .277" throat and backbore of the G series, not the much larger throats that other mouthpieces have. I tried to start out with a Yamaha 58, but the larger throat let me burn up too much air before I learned control.
- Bach5G
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[quote="Posaunus"]If the 1-1/2G seems slightly large for him, a good (readily available) option for a bass trombone beginner would be a Schilke 58 or a Bach 2G.[/quote]
I think an S58 is larger than a 1 1/2G. .296” v .276” throat too. Still a good option starting out. A 57 might also work.
I think an S58 is larger than a 1 1/2G. .296” v .276” throat too. Still a good option starting out. A 57 might also work.
- Posaunus
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[quote="Bach5G"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="220748" time="1695350913" user_id="158">
If the 1-1/2G seems slightly large for him, a good (readily available) option for a bass trombone beginner would be a Schilke 58 or a Bach 2G.[/quote]
I think an S58 is larger than a 1 1/2G. .296” v .276” throat too. Still a good option starting out. A 57 might also work.
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True enough. But it depends on which mouthpieces from which era. Cup I.D.s seem to vary.
Based on a very small sample size, I have measured Bach 1½G Cup I.D.s from ~27.0mm to ~27.25mm. (And 2Gs from 26.8mm to 27.2mm !) Schilke 58: From ~26.8mm to ~27.2mm.
Throats seem to be more consistent - Bach 1½G: 7.04mm (0.277"); Schilke 58: 7.67mm (0.302").
If the 1-1/2G seems slightly large for him, a good (readily available) option for a bass trombone beginner would be a Schilke 58 or a Bach 2G.[/quote]
I think an S58 is larger than a 1 1/2G. .296” v .276” throat too. Still a good option starting out. A 57 might also work.
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True enough. But it depends on which mouthpieces from which era. Cup I.D.s seem to vary.
Based on a very small sample size, I have measured Bach 1½G Cup I.D.s from ~27.0mm to ~27.25mm. (And 2Gs from 26.8mm to 27.2mm !) Schilke 58: From ~26.8mm to ~27.2mm.
Throats seem to be more consistent - Bach 1½G: 7.04mm (0.277"); Schilke 58: 7.67mm (0.302").
- Bach5G
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[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="Bach5G" post_id="221066" time="1695673553" user_id="2999">
I think an S58 is larger than a 1 1/2G. .296” v .276” throat too. Still a good option starting out. A 57 might also work.[/quote]
True enough. But it depends on which mouthpieces from which era. Cup I.D.s seem to vary.
Based on a very small sample size, I have measured Bach 1½G Cup I.D.s from ~27.0mm to ~27.25mm. (And 2Gs from 26.8mm to 27.2mm !) Schilke 58: From ~26.8mm to ~27.2mm.
Throats seem to be more consistent - Bach 1½G: 7.04mm (0.277"); Schilke 58: 7.67mm (0.302").
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All are good starter pieces.
I think an S58 is larger than a 1 1/2G. .296” v .276” throat too. Still a good option starting out. A 57 might also work.[/quote]
True enough. But it depends on which mouthpieces from which era. Cup I.D.s seem to vary.
Based on a very small sample size, I have measured Bach 1½G Cup I.D.s from ~27.0mm to ~27.25mm. (And 2Gs from 26.8mm to 27.2mm !) Schilke 58: From ~26.8mm to ~27.2mm.
Throats seem to be more consistent - Bach 1½G: 7.04mm (0.277"); Schilke 58: 7.67mm (0.302").
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All are good starter pieces.