Toby’s new horn?
- StevenHolloway
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Looks like a Yamaha slide for sure. Could this be a new prototype?
- Posaunus
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Hmm. Why does Steve Lange's (2nd Trombone) bell look larger than Jim Markey's (Bass Trombone)?
Optical illusion? Wide angle artifact?
Optical illusion? Wide angle artifact?
- harrisonreed
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The tuba players hands are also larger than the bass trombone bell so....
- Blabberbucket
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Looks like a pretty heavily modified Yamaha if it is. Slide hardware definitely looks like Yam. There's not a production Yamaha that I'm aware of with that style of wrap, modular fittings, and some interesting extensions on the F slide. Lever setup is also different than stock Yam. Hard to tell from the pic but possibly nickel brace tubes, too?
- Burgerbob
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[quote="Blabberbucket"]Lever setup is also different than stock Yam.[/quote]
The new 835 models have a lever/linkage just like this. I think it may be a new prototype instrument or at least custom for him.
The new 835 models have a lever/linkage just like this. I think it may be a new prototype instrument or at least custom for him.
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="Blabberbucket" post_id="222245" time="1696817964" user_id="15797">
Lever setup is also different than stock Yam.[/quote]
The new 835 models have a lever/linkage just like this. I think it may be a new prototype instrument or at least custom for him.
</QUOTE> They also have brass valve caps, which is what it looks like that horn has. If it's a Yamaha, it's been quite some time since they made a Tenor with a 90 90 port configured valve.
Lever setup is also different than stock Yam.[/quote]
The new 835 models have a lever/linkage just like this. I think it may be a new prototype instrument or at least custom for him.
</QUOTE> They also have brass valve caps, which is what it looks like that horn has. If it's a Yamaha, it's been quite some time since they made a Tenor with a 90 90 port configured valve.
- BassBoneWaluigi
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[quote="StevenHolloway"]Looks like a Yamaha slide for sure. Could this be a new prototype?[/quote]
What about the slide makes it a Yamaha?
What about the slide makes it a Yamaha?
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="BassBoneWaluigi"]What about the slide makes it a Yamaha?[/quote] The shape of the cork barrels is distinctive. Of course if it's in development most likely he can't really talk about it.
- harrisonreed
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It's super seeecret. I betchuu it's made out of brass and pitched in a sharp Bb!
- Danitrb
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[quote="BassBoneWaluigi"]<QUOTE author="StevenHolloway" post_id="222170" time="1696713655" user_id="3193">
Looks like a Yamaha slide for sure. Could this be a new prototype?[/quote]
What about the slide makes it a Yamaha?
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I simply think that it is Yamaha, because on the top of slide you can see "Yamaha" writing, tipic of that brand.
Looks like a Yamaha slide for sure. Could this be a new prototype?[/quote]
What about the slide makes it a Yamaha?
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I simply think that it is Yamaha, because on the top of slide you can see "Yamaha" writing, tipic of that brand.
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="Danitrb"]I simply think that it is Yamaha, because on the top of slide you can see "Yamaha" writing, tipic of that brand.[/quote] You can also see that the over sleeves are not the same length as the Edwards T350-CR-E right next to it, and are uneven, as they are on the Yamaha Xeno Orchestral Tenors. The slide lock and the slide receiver locking nut look correct for a Yamaha as well.
- Posaunus
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Y'all chose the wrong careers. Should have been detectives, not trombonists!
- WilliamLang
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Trombone Columbo: hey you know something? it's interesting that you said the trombone was in 8th position at dinner...
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="Posaunus"]Y'all chose the wrong careers. Should have been detectives, not trombonists![/quote] Too many years of using binoculars and looking at photos trying to figure out what other people are playing. Also comes in handy when a frankenhorn shows up.
- JeffBone44
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It seems like a lot of players are switching from axials back to rotors. I just got my old rotor valve refinished at Shires. I don't know what they tweaked, but it plays way better than before. It's now one of the best rotors I've ever played. However, I just feel more comfortable on the axial and use that the majority of the time.
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="JeffBone44"]It seems like a lot of players are switching from axials back to rotors. I just got my old rotor valve refinished at Shires. I don't know what they tweaked, but it plays way better than before. It's now one of the best rotors I've ever played. However, I just feel more comfortable on the axial and use that the majority of the time.[/quote] My one and only horn for quite a number of years was a Bach 42T. I found that for me, I just like the more secure feeling and actuation of a rotor when compared to an Axial Flow. I also play rotor equipped basses, so its just better somehow to keep things consistent. I'm eventually probably going to either have my 42T turned into a rotor horn, or sell it. Right now I have too many trombones, but don't really play tenor enough right now to make a decision.
- harrisonreed
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Don't change the 42T -- those things are special. The only Bach I ever liked playing was my friend's 42T (the only 42T I got to try). It can't be a coincidence that out of 20+ Bach horns I've played, the 42T was the only one where I went "wow"!
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="harrisonreed"]Don't change the 42T -- those things are special. The only Bach I ever liked playing was my friend's 42T (the only 42T I got to try). It can't be a coincidence that out of 20+ Bach horns I've played, the 42T was the only one where I went "wow"![/quote] Well, thankfully the valve is holding up, so far. The Aluminum core valves however do not have a replaceable bushing in the backing plate, so if that goes, there's no choice but to replace it. I should get around to doing the spot relacquering on it that it needs around the grip area.
- JeffBone44
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I have an axial Shires bass, so it probably makes sense that I would like the axial tenor better too. However, I have a Conn 78H Special with a rotor on it, and I do love that horn too.