Sale on Big Band charts!

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Digidog
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by Digidog »

Hello everybody! :hi:

I just want to advertise my webshop, where I sell Big Band charts originally written for my band.

Throughout December I have a sale on all charts.

Whether you are interested in buying anything, or just want to peek around - you are very welcome!

Merry Christmas to you all trombonists (or Happy Holidays, to all of you who don't celebrate Christmas)!
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

As a follow up on my earlier advertising, I'd now like to add that there is also <I>one free chart to download</I>. [url]https://www.danieleng.com/?post_type=product :idea:

I'm currently writing four special charts for Big Band that will be available for free, and the first was published some days ago.

There will also be a sale during the summer months, but I will notify more about that later.

Welcome!
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Kingfan
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by Kingfan »

Thanks! I just requested the free chart. I'll slip it in the band's practice list when I get a chance and see what it sounds like.
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

[quote="Kingfan"]Thanks! I just requested the free chart. I'll slip it in the band's practice list when I get a chance and see what it sounds like.[/quote]

I hope you, and your band, like it!

Please note that the downloading links only are valid for 48hrs. This limit is due to server restrictions from my web host, so if you haven't taken it down to your computer already the link will be void after that period.
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

Also requested. Looking forward to reading it.
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

But you did recieve an email with a link for downloading, didn't you?

I mean: When checkout is completed you should immediately get an email with a link for downloading the chart. If you haven't - notify me, because then there's something seriously wrong. :horror:

Check your eventual spam filters if any mail got stuck there, or get back to me if you haven't recieved any downloading mail.
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

The reply was in my spam folder (I had to tell my mail it wasn't spam). Took a few minutes to find the download link, but I found it. Thanks.

Now if you had a bass trombone feature, I'd be interested in buying it.
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

[quote="BGuttman"]The reply was in my spam folder (I had to tell my mail it wasn't spam). Took a few minutes to find the download link, but I found it. Thanks.

Now if you had a bass trombone feature, I'd be interested in buying it.[/quote]

You guys had me worried there for a while.... I'm relieved that everything worked as it should.

For bass trombone feature with Big Band, I have planned to compose such a piece, but that is a while in the future and may not be until this fall. All depends on how much other work comes in the way, since I have to prioritize that which I get paid for over that which I do for fun and personal development. Some drafts are, however, already laid out.

Aside from my own writing, I know of a couple of really good charts featuring the bass trombone that you maybe can buy from their respective writers. I bought those charts for myself long ago, and I'll see if I can provide you with either links to buy or contact info to the writers if you are interested.

Anyway I'm glad that you took interest and decided to check out on my promotional offer. Thanks, guys!
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="Digidog"]I know of a couple of really good charts featuring the bass trombone that you maybe can buy from their respective writers. I bought those charts for myself long ago, and I'll see if I can provide you with either links to buy or contact info to the writers if you are interested.[/quote]

Would be great if you could post that information for all of us.

I had no trouble downloading The Queen - it was available directly from your Website as soon as I signed up. But, like Bruce, I received no e-mail - or so I thought. But I found it the next day in my Spam folder! May need some attention from a cyber expert? :idk:

At any rate, thanks for sharing your charts. We'll give The Queen a try at next week's rehearsal. :good:
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

Once again: Thanks for your interest!

As for the bass trombone feature charts, I'll see if they still are available. Of the two guys who wrote those two charts I have, one of them is passed since more than ten years, and the other works under contract and is very difficult in releasing his work, even long after the commission terms have run out. I don't want to get your hopes up, but I'll see what I can do.

As for advertising my own writing, I have sketches on a Big Band and bass trombone feature laid out, and if not too much other work is on, I'll start writing it after the summer.
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

Well: This year, 2019, also has a Summer Sale. As usual the reductions are 20% off on all compositions, and 15% off on all arrangements. :amazed:

All you Forumites are welcome to visit my site, buying or not, and I'd be happy to hear what you think about either my site, my writing - or both.

[url]https://www.danieleng.com

Welcome! :mrgreen:
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

I have to say, I brought "The Queen" to one of my Big Band rehearsals and they LOVED it. Have a feeling that it will be on some concerts next year.
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AndrewMeronek
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by AndrewMeronek »

Daniel, I hope your finding some success selling charts. I'm still trying to figure that out. The biggest frustration I find is the amount of people who basically engage in piracy of big band charts. It's not so much piracy of my charts, but from from bigger publishers, such that there is often very little incentive for local bandleaders to engage with local composers/arrangers like me. And the other avenue to try to make money writing music - recording royalties - is tough in big band jazz because it's simply expensive to produce, and there isn't nearly as much public arts support in big band jazz as there is in some other genres like classical symphonic music. :(
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

[quote="BGuttman"]I have to say, I brought "The Queen" to one of my Big Band rehearsals and they LOVED it. Have a feeling that it will be on somhttps://trombonechat.com/viewforum.php?f=25e concerts next year.[/quote]

Thanks, Bruce! It makes me happy to hear. I hope you can send me a recording if any is done, since it's always inspiring to hear other bands play what I write - without me involved.

[quote="AndrewMeronek"]Daniel, I hope your finding some success selling charts. I'm still trying to figure that out. The biggest frustration I find is the amount of people who basically engage in piracy of big band charts. It's not so much piracy of my charts, but from from bigger publishers, such that there is often very little incentive for local bandleaders to engage with local composers/arrangers like me. And the other avenue to try to make money writing music - recording royalties - is tough in big band jazz because it's simply expensive to produce, and there isn't nearly as much public arts support in big band jazz as there is in some other genres like classical symphonic music. :([/quote]

Well; I wouldn't say I have any success, but things are not all stale. I sell one chart here, one there, and sometimes I get a commission; mostly from amateurs, amateur orchestras or schools. I've been commissioned by, and sold charts to, professional bands as well, but altogether I cannot say I could make a living out of my writing alone. It is as it always seems to be for musicians these days: You have to do a lot of differentiating and be good at many fields within your profession - it's only a select few who can specialize.

Concerning your experience with the piracy of charts, I can say that it's very prevalent in Sweden too. However; even if I refrain from copying charts from others, the problem here - as I see it - is that: 1) People are so scared of chancing on listening to new music outside of mainstream pop, that most Big Band performances here are stuck in some lame, utterly boring "Tribute to..." form, that leaves little to no room for progressive Big Band music to reach audiences beyond those deeply committed and interested. Promotors and venues are simply not interested in arranging Big Band concerts, unless "Sinatra" (or his ilk) is mentioned in the production content. 2) Musical art forms other than commercially already successful pop or classical music (this concerns most of Scandinavia, in my experience) is actually discouraged, politically and socially. It's almost impossible to find a rehersal location for a Big Band, those you can find are ridiculously expensive - one (a public junior high auditorium) I asked the fee for said it would cost the equivalent of $1250 for a three hour rehearsal on a saturday mid-day. Property owners are generally discouraged from renting out rehearsal venues, so the means to pursue a Big Band project outside of the big institutions are meagre. 3) People and companies hiring a Big Band love to dance, love the power of a Big Band and love the tunes of the classics - but they don't want to pay for the performance of a live band. Not at least a professional band. They want the music, but it should come as close to free as possible (gee, what awful stories I could tell you about cheap agents and inquirers....).

I hold quite tightly to what I write and try to place my music in a niche that people will have to want to have, rather than casually incorporate into their repertoire just because it can be done. I write what I would like to play myself, and if I'm asked about a commission I make it clear that I write in my special way and gladly let on jobs where it's required to write like somebody else. If they want an imitator, they should not call me.

I hope you too can find some openings for your charts. I checked out your homepage, and liked what I saw and heard. We can discuss how to improve the market for new Big Band music at another thread here, so I'll either start, or look for one - but now I still have a couple of days of vacationing before I get back to work.

The Summer Sale is still on, until the end of August.
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AndrewMeronek
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by AndrewMeronek »

To comment on the OP: I like how your website is laid out, Daniel. You do a better job of being clear about a chart's setup than I do on my website. :good: At least, I claim that right now mine is a work in progress. :idk:
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AndrewMeronek
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by AndrewMeronek »

[quote="Digidog"]Concerning your experience with the piracy of charts, I can say that it's very prevalent in Sweden too. However; even if I refrain from copying charts from others, the problem here - as I see it - is that: 1) People are so scared of chancing on listening to new music outside of mainstream pop, that most Big Band performances here are stuck in some lame, utterly boring "Tribute to..." form, that leaves little to no room for progressive Big Band music to reach audiences beyond those deeply committed and interested. Promotors and venues are simply not interested in arranging Big Band concerts, unless "Sinatra" (or his ilk) is mentioned in the production content. 2) Musical art forms other than commercially already successful pop or classical music (this concerns most of Scandinavia, in my experience) is actually discouraged, politically and socially. It's almost impossible to find a rehersal location for a Big Band, those you can find are ridiculously expensive - one (a public junior high auditorium) I asked the fee for said it would cost the equivalent of $1250 for a three hour rehearsal on a saturday mid-day. Property owners are generally discouraged from renting out rehearsal venues, so the means to pursue a Big Band project outside of the big institutions are meagre. 3) People and companies hiring a Big Band love to dance, love the power of a Big Band and love the tunes of the classics - but they don't want to pay for the performance of a live band. Not at least a professional band. They want the music, but it should come as close to free as possible (gee, what awful stories I could tell you about cheap agents and inquirers....).[/quote]

Not paying musicians seems to be a story as old as music, alas. I don't think it's specific to big band, although it's pretty acute there.

I see a lot of the same problems here in the Detroit area, although perhaps it might be *slightly* easier to find rehearsal spaces. Some people manage to get homes that have a room big enough to do it; churches are another common source of help for space. Town community centers sometimes help out, but they tend to be stingier with rental fees.

I also see a lot of big bands make things harder for themselves. They often don't do proper sound checks. They often don't spent the time to set up a stage so it looks unique to that band. They sometimes try to perform in venues where there is no way to get enough people inside to justify the costs. They often don't do a good job of creating clear promotional material that people understand. One of the reasons why a "Sinatra show" works is because people understand what to expect. This doesn't have to apply to Sinatra only; but for some reason promoters don't apply the same kind of expertise as in other industries. "The Sounds of Big Band Jazz", as a super-common promotional tagline (and slight variations) is way too vague. Have a main feature of some kind.
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

Hello Everybody!

I'm just building on to this thread, to advertise that there is a new free chart available from today. :D

This time it's a short funk ballad for a female vocalist. It's not band-tested and proof read yet but I took "a chance" and put it up on the web page anyway.

You are very welcome to visit my web page, regardless if you want to buy or just look around.

Welcome!
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

Bumping this old thread, I will just notify everybody here that between December 1st throughout December 31st, there is an upcoming December Sale in my web shop.

The discount is 20% off on all compositions, and 15% off on all arrangements.

You are all most welcome to visit! :hi:
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

Okay; I bump this old ad thread to announce that today (18/4) I have published the last of the four free, promotional charts that I had planned for my web shop.

This time it's an instrumental arrangement of A-C Jobim's "Wave" in a setting with 2 flutes in the sax section that present the theme. Somewhat brief solo sections are written for the lead flute and for trombone 2, and there is a "minorish" interlude before the flute-led shout chorus.

Whether or not you are interested in my charts, you are always welcome to look around.

[url]https://www.danieleng.com/?product_cat=charts-for-free

Due to all the infection-preventing restrictions, even here in Sweden, this chart isn't band tested and proof-read so there might be some editing errors - but I hope they are far and few, if any. :shuffle:

Welcome!
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

Thanks Daniel,

Our Big Band enjoyed reading through The Queen when we last got together (seems like months; in fact it was just 10 weeks ago). I hope to assemble the right personnel and instrumentation to try more of your fine work when we reassemble (whenever that is!).

Good luck. :good: