What do you call this style of cut bell?
- ryebrye
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Found on Goodwill:
https://shopgoodwill.com/item/195612217
They say it "needs repair" but I can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe there's some slight wear on the inner stockings or something that might need to be addressed...
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Found on Goodwill:
https://shopgoodwill.com/item/195612217
They say it "needs repair" but I can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe there's some slight wear on the inner stockings or something that might need to be addressed...
- tbonesullivan
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Was this supposed be someone's "poor man's sackbut"? I can't imagine that the intonation is very good.
- cmcslide
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Is that a leadpipe inside what's left of the bell flare in the second pic???
- Kbiggs
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Nope, that’s the shank of a mouthpiece—the shank is out of round.
It looks like we have an answer for the custom cut-bell design. I’m guessing someone got their mouthpiece stuck, didn’t think to remove the tuning slide, and decided to use a can opener, metal snips, or some other weapon of brass destruction to remove it.
It looks like we have an answer for the custom cut-bell design. I’m guessing someone got their mouthpiece stuck, didn’t think to remove the tuning slide, and decided to use a can opener, metal snips, or some other weapon of brass destruction to remove it.
- ghmerrill
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[quote="ryebrye"]They say it "needs repair" but I can't quite put my finger on why.[/quote]
I've bought a couple of (junk, parts, fooling around) things from them. I've never seen any evidence that any Goodwill employee at any location has any grasp of anything about any brass instrument. :lol: That is probably also true of any other kind of instrument as well.
I've bought a couple of (junk, parts, fooling around) things from them. I've never seen any evidence that any Goodwill employee at any location has any grasp of anything about any brass instrument. :lol: That is probably also true of any other kind of instrument as well.
- Doug_Elliott
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I'd be interested to know what sort of process made that cut.
- ghmerrill
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[quote="Doug Elliott"]I'd be interested to know what sort of process made that cut.[/quote]
It looks to me as though it may have been just straight through with a saw (hacksaw, bandsaw, ...), but then the edge was bent down in increments with pliers -- perhaps to enable it to wedge into some other bell-like structure.
It looks to me as though it may have been just straight through with a saw (hacksaw, bandsaw, ...), but then the edge was bent down in increments with pliers -- perhaps to enable it to wedge into some other bell-like structure.
- AtomicClock
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Attempted bead?
- BGuttman
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I would call this a hackbut, but it's not even a good one.
- BGuttman
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I have a much better hackbut. It's an older Holton Collegiate that somebody sawed off the bell flare. Nice clean edge. Doesn't sound anything like a sackbut, but played a lot softer than before. Perfect horn to use with unmiked school musicals.
- WGWTR180
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[quote="BGuttman"]I would call this a hackbut, but it's not even a good one.[/quote]
That’s funny!!!
That’s funny!!!
- elmsandr
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Is this just a flare that got twisted and wrinkled, then somebody tried to “help” and straighten it out improperly? A bit extreme, but I’ve seen a number of holes just ripped in flares from similar bell twists.
Cheers,
Andy
Cheers,
Andy
- Doug_Elliott
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Somebody got it cheap.
- ryebrye
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Yeah, someone got a good deal on the spare parts / case
The shipping was about $40 to my place, otherwise I would have bid on it just to have extra Jupiter parts around...
The reason I didn't bid on it though is because I don't run a repair business and don't have any Jupiter student models in need of parts :lol:
The shipping was about $40 to my place, otherwise I would have bid on it just to have extra Jupiter parts around...
The reason I didn't bid on it though is because I don't run a repair business and don't have any Jupiter student models in need of parts :lol:
- JohnL
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[quote="djhendy"]I think this is the result of a divorce settlement.[/quote]
Somebody else got custody of the bell flare?
Somebody else got custody of the bell flare?
- Blabberbucket
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Early 2000s Jupiter bells break like this frequently. It's a manufacturing issue. I have replaced many many trumpet bells that had broken in this way.
- jjenkins
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I did something like this to a junky Olds Ambassador while in high school. The results weren't great at all. This brings back good memories though. <EMOJI seq="1f602" tseq="1f602">😂</EMOJI>
- CharlieB
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The horn and the case look brand new, except for the tarnish on the grip area that suggests that it has been stored for some time.
Maybe, early on, the seam between the flare and the stem let go, and for safety somebody crimped the raw edge with pliers while awaiting a warranty replacement horn. Not a great solution, but maybe the best option at the time. Sometimes, factories don't insist on the physical return of failed warranty merchandise if they can't justify the handling cost, and the purchaser keeps or sells the failed item.
Maybe, early on, the seam between the flare and the stem let go, and for safety somebody crimped the raw edge with pliers while awaiting a warranty replacement horn. Not a great solution, but maybe the best option at the time. Sometimes, factories don't insist on the physical return of failed warranty merchandise if they can't justify the handling cost, and the purchaser keeps or sells the failed item.