Folding Stand Helper
- Mamaposaune
- Posts: 657
- Joined: Sep 22, 2018
Since I frequently need to travel with a folding stand, but get annoyed when my folder or loose music don't want to stay put, I made this cover out of thin plastic that can slip behind the music holder clips, and attached a wider piece across the bottom with white duct tape. Quick, easy and cheap, and it works great.
And yes, I do have several heavier folding stands for outdoor concerts but they're a pain to haul around if I don't really need them.
I call it my handy-dandy folder-holder!
And yes, I do have several heavier folding stands for outdoor concerts but they're a pain to haul around if I don't really need them.
I call it my handy-dandy folder-holder!
- AtomicClock
- Posts: 1094
- Joined: Oct 19, 2023
Can you fold up your stand with the bottom piece taped on? A Manhasset accessory shelf adds a lot of stability to a wire stand, and pops off for transport.
What plastic do you use? I do something similar with a piece of polycarbonate. Well, two pieces -- it's broken once (so far)!
What plastic do you use? I do something similar with a piece of polycarbonate. Well, two pieces -- it's broken once (so far)!
- Posaunus
- Posts: 5018
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
I haven't had this problem for years since I started using my Desca Presto (folding plastic) music stand. Just a little heavier and bulkier than a wire stand, but soooo much more robust and convenient.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.descamusic.com/product/pres ... c-stand-2/">https://www.descamusic.com/product/presto-music-stand-2/</LINK_TEXT>
Complete with roomy accessory shelf for lubricant, water spray bottle, pencil, tuner, glasses, mobile phone, mouthpiece, ...
Collapsed dimensions: 3.5” x 3.5” x 20” with a built-in carry handle. 3.5 pounds. Easy to carry! Use indoors or outdoors.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.descamusic.com/product/pres ... c-stand-2/">https://www.descamusic.com/product/presto-music-stand-2/</LINK_TEXT>
Complete with roomy accessory shelf for lubricant, water spray bottle, pencil, tuner, glasses, mobile phone, mouthpiece, ...
Collapsed dimensions: 3.5” x 3.5” x 20” with a built-in carry handle. 3.5 pounds. Easy to carry! Use indoors or outdoors.
- baileyman
- Posts: 1169
- Joined: Mar 24, 2018
This is because the shelf is too shallow? A folded cardboard can extend the shelf, and the book will hold it securely by weight.
- Mamaposaune
- Posts: 657
- Joined: Sep 22, 2018
[quote="AtomicClock"]Can you fold up your stand with the bottom piece taped on? A Manhasset accessory shelf adds a lot of stability to a wire stand, and pops off for transport.
What plastic do you use? I do something similar with a piece of polycarbonate. Well, two pieces -- it's broken once (so far)![/quote]
The plastic I used was thin, about the thickness of a credit card, but a little more flexible. I had it in the house but I'm not sure what it was made for. The bottom piece does not attach to the stand, but folds so the entire thing is flat and I can stash it in my music folder.
What plastic do you use? I do something similar with a piece of polycarbonate. Well, two pieces -- it's broken once (so far)![/quote]
The plastic I used was thin, about the thickness of a credit card, but a little more flexible. I had it in the house but I'm not sure what it was made for. The bottom piece does not attach to the stand, but folds so the entire thing is flat and I can stash it in my music folder.
- harrisonreed
- Posts: 6479
- Joined: Aug 17, 2018
[quote="Posaunus"]I haven't had this problem for years since I started using my Desca Presto (folding plastic) music stand. Just a little heavier and bulkier than a wire stand, but soooo much more robust and convenient.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.descamusic.com/product/pres ... c-stand-2/">https://www.descamusic.com/product/presto-music-stand-2/</LINK_TEXT>
Complete with roomy accessory shelf for lubricant, water spray bottle, pencil, tuner, glasses, mobile phone, mouthpiece, ...
Collapsed dimensions: 3.5” x 3.5” x 20” with a built-in carry handle. 3.5 pounds. Easy to carry! Use indoors or outdoors.[/quote]
These types of stands seem good on paper but the shelf/stand back is usually too tall. If you have to have the slide under the stand, then the music is up in front of your face. So you either have to play into the dirt or have your stand up blocking everything. That 3-4" is a lot.
Get rid of the storage area under the stand and it's probably perfect for me.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.descamusic.com/product/pres ... c-stand-2/">https://www.descamusic.com/product/presto-music-stand-2/</LINK_TEXT>
Complete with roomy accessory shelf for lubricant, water spray bottle, pencil, tuner, glasses, mobile phone, mouthpiece, ...
Collapsed dimensions: 3.5” x 3.5” x 20” with a built-in carry handle. 3.5 pounds. Easy to carry! Use indoors or outdoors.[/quote]
These types of stands seem good on paper but the shelf/stand back is usually too tall. If you have to have the slide under the stand, then the music is up in front of your face. So you either have to play into the dirt or have your stand up blocking everything. That 3-4" is a lot.
Get rid of the storage area under the stand and it's probably perfect for me.
- Posaunus
- Posts: 5018
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="harrisonreed"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="241677" time="1714358308" user_id="158">
I haven't had this problem for years since I started using my Desca Presto (folding plastic) music stand. Just a little heavier and bulkier than a wire stand, but soooo much more robust and convenient.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.descamusic.com/product/pres ... c-stand-2/">https://www.descamusic.com/product/presto-music-stand-2/</LINK_TEXT>[/quote]
These types of stands seem good on paper but the shelf/stand back is usually too tall. If you have to have the slide under the stand, then the music is up in front of your face. So you either have to play into the dirt or have your stand up blocking everything. That 3-4" is a lot.
Get rid of the storage area under the stand and it's probably perfect for me.
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Not really a problem for me - my slide goes to the left of the stand, so I tilt only a bit below horizontal.
I can see your point if you play with the slide beneath the stand.
I haven't had this problem for years since I started using my Desca Presto (folding plastic) music stand. Just a little heavier and bulkier than a wire stand, but soooo much more robust and convenient.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.descamusic.com/product/pres ... c-stand-2/">https://www.descamusic.com/product/presto-music-stand-2/</LINK_TEXT>[/quote]
These types of stands seem good on paper but the shelf/stand back is usually too tall. If you have to have the slide under the stand, then the music is up in front of your face. So you either have to play into the dirt or have your stand up blocking everything. That 3-4" is a lot.
Get rid of the storage area under the stand and it's probably perfect for me.
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Not really a problem for me - my slide goes to the left of the stand, so I tilt only a bit below horizontal.
I can see your point if you play with the slide beneath the stand.
- harrisonreed
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- Joined: Aug 17, 2018
Yeah, absolutely! I don't want to derail -- I prefer being off to the left too, but sometimes you're jammed in and don't have the room.
- BGuttman
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- Joined: Mar 22, 2018
With regard to the Desca, I don't like that model. On a windy day the music can be blown all over the place. I prefer a solid desk. There was an older Desca model that had the solid desk and it seems they discontinued it.
As to Mamaposaune's device, we had a set of cardboard versions made by Baileyman in one of my big bands. We had rather thick "books" of individual parts that worked great with them. We only played indoors so we didn't have to worry about wind.
As to Mamaposaune's device, we had a set of cardboard versions made by Baileyman in one of my big bands. We had rather thick "books" of individual parts that worked great with them. We only played indoors so we didn't have to worry about wind.
- whitbey
- Posts: 654
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
My out door plexiglass is 8-1/4 x 11 that fits in some of my cases. I use the plexi the same way.
- Posaunus
- Posts: 5018
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="BGuttman"]With regard to the Desca, I don't like that model. On a windy day the music can be blown all over the place. I prefer a solid desk.[/quote]
Desca stand is great indoors.
Lightweight, compact, convenient, easy to set up.
Fine outdoors on a not-too-windy day.
Any stand can be risky in a stiff breeze. :horror:
Desca stand is great indoors.
Lightweight, compact, convenient, easy to set up.
Fine outdoors on a not-too-windy day.
Any stand can be risky in a stiff breeze. :horror:
- AtomicClock
- Posts: 1094
- Joined: Oct 19, 2023
[quote="Posaunus"]Any stand can be risky in a stiff breeze. :horror:[/quote]
I don't see it on their website now. But K&M used to make a folding stand where one of the legs had an extension which ran flat on the ground, so you could hold it down with your foot.
I don't see it on their website now. But K&M used to make a folding stand where one of the legs had an extension which ran flat on the ground, so you could hold it down with your foot.
- Dennis
- Posts: 404
- Joined: Mar 24, 2018
[quote="BGuttman"]With regard to the Desca, I don't like that model. On a windy day the music can be blown all over the place. I prefer a solid desk. There was an older Desca model that had the solid desk and it seems they discontinued it.
As to Mamaposaune's device, we had a set of cardboard versions made by Baileyman in one of my big bands. We had rather thick "books" of individual parts that worked great with them. We only played indoors so we didn't have to worry about wind.[/quote]
Outdoors the Desca is designed to be used with their Fholders. These have elastic straps that bind the stand to the desk, and there is a clear vinyl pocket with a matching upper clear vinyl cover. The vinyl holds the music in place.
Of course, a strong enough wind can blow the whole system over. But even in a moderate breeze it's quite stable.
As to Mamaposaune's device, we had a set of cardboard versions made by Baileyman in one of my big bands. We had rather thick "books" of individual parts that worked great with them. We only played indoors so we didn't have to worry about wind.[/quote]
Outdoors the Desca is designed to be used with their Fholders. These have elastic straps that bind the stand to the desk, and there is a clear vinyl pocket with a matching upper clear vinyl cover. The vinyl holds the music in place.
Of course, a strong enough wind can blow the whole system over. But even in a moderate breeze it's quite stable.
- JohnL
- Posts: 2529
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="Dennis"]Of course, a strong enough wind can blow the whole system over. But even in a moderate breeze it's quite stable.[/quote]
When the Santa Ana winds are blowing here in SoCal, even non-folding stands are not entirely safe. I've seen ballast bags and ballast slings for photo tripods and have frequently considered using something like that for windy outdoor gigs.
When the Santa Ana winds are blowing here in SoCal, even non-folding stands are not entirely safe. I've seen ballast bags and ballast slings for photo tripods and have frequently considered using something like that for windy outdoor gigs.