Shires and Stephen’s side by side

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Spemrick
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by Spemrick »

For those of you interested in seeing Steve‘s new instruments, here’s the Stephens horn I took possession of in December up against my Shires custom.
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walldaja
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by walldaja »

Any difference in feel through the valve? Thx
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Spemrick
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by Spemrick »

The Stephens horn is a little more open through the F side, I have the dual bore on my Shires. Both valves are great and I could be happy for the rest of my life with either one of them.
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Digidog
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by Digidog »

What valves are there on the respective horn?
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bassbone1993
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by bassbone1993 »

Looks like Caidex (not sure on the spelling) for Stephen's and one of the rotors for Shires
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

That's not a Caidex. Bosc maybe
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GabrielRice
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by GabrielRice »

This is a rotor Steve is having made specifically for him.
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Spemrick
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by Spemrick »

Thanks Gabe, you can see the full explanation of the valve that Steve is using in the Stephens trombone thread that is also in the instruments forum. What I can tell you is that it plays great, my Shires horn has a dual bore.
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Tbarh
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by Tbarh »

Is it just my aging eyes or is there a difference in bell shape /flare throat size? Conn and Bach shaped maybe ?

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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="GabrielRice"]This is a rotor Steve is having made specifically for him.[/quote]

The Stephens Brass Instruments trombone rotor has been discussed in (agonizing) detail in a previous thread:

<LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?p=193293#p193293">https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?p=193293#p193293</LINK_TEXT>

I would guess that this rotary valve - which uses some of the ideas proposed (and patented) by Benny Leonard (Patent now expired), as well as some additional improvements / advances - is pretty special, and probably plays like a charm.
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JohnL
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by JohnL »

Is it just me, or does that one branch on the Stephens f-attachment look kinda like something George McCracken might have done?