Is Shires the Krispy Kreme of Trombone manufacturers?
- Aspenforest
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As the title says :?:
- officermayo
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The Tim Horton's, maybe. :-)
- Aspenforest
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[quote="JohnL"]Trying to see the parallel here.[/quote]
Let's for the sake of argument say that an FE Olds is similar to a Ford? Or mayhaps Olds:White Castle
Let's for the sake of argument say that an FE Olds is similar to a Ford? Or mayhaps Olds:White Castle
- mcphatty00
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This would be tough for me. I have a Shires from 2003 and have never tried the Q's or artist models.
- harrisonreed
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Yes but Shires lets you "have it your way" (tm)
Although even bad combos are allowed, so maybe it's more like when McDonald's Japan allowed people to build their own burgers on the ordering screen, including a bun with 50 pieces of cheese and nothing else.
Although even bad combos are allowed, so maybe it's more like when McDonald's Japan allowed people to build their own burgers on the ordering screen, including a bun with 50 pieces of cheese and nothing else.
- AtomicClock
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The used market is full of excellent donuts from the 60s and 70s. I don't know why anyone would buy a brand-new one.
- AndrewMeronek
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What is Krispy Kreme?
- harrisonreed
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An inferior donut shop in the US
- Aspenforest
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I suppose this begs the question then. Is Conn-Selmer and Eastman similar to Nestle and or Inspire Brands LLC? How does this make everyone feel?
- JKBone85
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[quote="harrisonreed"]An inferior donut shop in the US[/quote]
Most certainly not inferior to Dunkin. Quite the opposite.
Most certainly not inferior to Dunkin. Quite the opposite.
- Posaunus
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We had a Krispy Kreme interloper open near us (in southern California) a few years ago. After the first crazy few weeks, the excitement wore off. I tried a donut once - never returned. I guess it's an acquired taste - just not for me. The store is still limping along. No further expansion that I know of.
I have no idea what the comparison between Shires and overly sweet donuts is all about. :idk:
I have no idea what the comparison between Shires and overly sweet donuts is all about. :idk:
- elmsandr
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[quote="Aspenforest"]I suppose this begs the question then. Is Conn-Selmer and Eastman similar to Nestle and or Inspire Brands LLC? How does this make everyone feel?[/quote]
Make a case for why you think these are interesting comparisons… otherwise you are just trolling.
Cheers,
Andy
Make a case for why you think these are interesting comparisons… otherwise you are just trolling.
Cheers,
Andy
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[quote="JKBone85"]<QUOTE author="harrisonreed" post_id="243133" time="1715943934" user_id="3642">
An inferior donut shop in the US[/quote]
Most certainly not inferior to Dunkin. Quite the opposite.
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I didn't say anything about Dunkin'. Krispy Kreme is full of chemicals and preservatives -- their donuts are gross. Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' shouldn't even register on the scale.
If comparing trombone shops to donut shops, I'd say Edwards at least is on par with LaMar's. The 396-A is like their old fashioned sour cream donut. The jury is out for me on Shires. Certainly not a Krispy Kreme equivalent, though -- that joint doesn't even know how to spell words, let alone make donuts.
An inferior donut shop in the US[/quote]
Most certainly not inferior to Dunkin. Quite the opposite.
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I didn't say anything about Dunkin'. Krispy Kreme is full of chemicals and preservatives -- their donuts are gross. Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' shouldn't even register on the scale.
If comparing trombone shops to donut shops, I'd say Edwards at least is on par with LaMar's. The 396-A is like their old fashioned sour cream donut. The jury is out for me on Shires. Certainly not a Krispy Kreme equivalent, though -- that joint doesn't even know how to spell words, let alone make donuts.
- Finetales
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I think sandwich chains are a better comparison, there aren't enough national donut chains to really work.
Conn-Selmer - Subway
Getzen - Quiznos
Jupiter/XO - Arby's
Yamaha - Jimmy John's
Courtois - Jersey Mike's
Edwards - Firehouse Subs
Shires - Which Wich
M&W - Potbelly
Rath - Pret a Manger
(Also, Krispy Kreme original glazed donuts are great, fight me.)
Conn-Selmer - Subway
Getzen - Quiznos
Jupiter/XO - Arby's
Yamaha - Jimmy John's
Courtois - Jersey Mike's
Edwards - Firehouse Subs
Shires - Which Wich
M&W - Potbelly
Rath - Pret a Manger
(Also, Krispy Kreme original glazed donuts are great, fight me.)
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Edwards is Definitely Which Wich, only because Which Wich is so damn good! Shires can be Firehouse.
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[quote="Finetales"]
(Also, Krispy Kreme original glazed donuts are great, fight me.)[/quote]
They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast!
(Also, Krispy Kreme original glazed donuts are great, fight me.)[/quote]
They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast!
- Finetales
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[quote="harrisonreed"]Edwards is Definitely Which Wich, only because Which Wich is so damn good! Shires can be Firehouse.[/quote]
I love Which Wich, which is why I put Shires there because I like Shires better than Edwards. :lol:
[quote="harrisonreed"]They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast![/quote]
Chemicals schmemicals, that thick glaze is so good! (But I also never get Krispy Kreme, because there are so many great local donut shops in LA that there's no reason to.)
I love Which Wich, which is why I put Shires there because I like Shires better than Edwards. :lol:
[quote="harrisonreed"]They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast![/quote]
Chemicals schmemicals, that thick glaze is so good! (But I also never get Krispy Kreme, because there are so many great local donut shops in LA that there's no reason to.)
- JohnL
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Please, don't just say "A is like B"; give some explanation.
[quote="Finetales"]Getzen - Quiznos[/quote]
Quizno's is barely still in business. I hope that's not the case with Getzen.
[quote="Finetales"]Getzen - Quiznos[/quote]
Quizno's is barely still in business. I hope that's not the case with Getzen.
- Aspenforest
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[quote="JohnL"]Please, don't just say "A is like B"; give some explanation.
<QUOTE author="Finetales" post_id="243183" time="1715967807" user_id="136">
Getzen - Quiznos[/quote]
Quizno's is barely still in business. I hope that's not the case with Getzen.
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<QUOTE author="Finetales" post_id="243183" time="1715967807" user_id="136">
Getzen - Quiznos[/quote]
Quizno's is barely still in business. I hope that's not the case with Getzen.
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I once worked with a guy who would produce his own biodiesel. He would go around to local restaurants and beg/borrow/steal used fry oil. He came to have very strongly-held opinions about the quality of fry oils.
Anyhow, he went on a rant one day about the contents of Krispy Kreme fry oil that formed a core memory for me.
No thanks.
Anyhow, he went on a rant one day about the contents of Krispy Kreme fry oil that formed a core memory for me.
No thanks.
- hyperbolica
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I'm not sure the connections mean the same things to everyone. It might be more helpful if you were just direct about associations:
Conn-Selmer: Industry giant that is well past its prime, but still makes some stuff worth playing
Olds: defunct, but still a lot of horns in circulation. Generally undervalued instruments, some models were odd, some beautiful, and some were niche
Kanstul: defunct, brought forward traditions from other mfgrs, reputation variable, often tried to mimic the spirit of other classics, best known for marching brass
Getzen: Has overcome a bad reputation, and is probably the shining star of old American instrument manufacturers
Edwards: the oldest of the new school of American instrument manufacturers, a reputation for great but somewhat heavy instruments
Yamaha: A great reputation for consistency and loved by many, but some models have a tendency toward blandness
Shires/Eastman: A reputation as the "it" brand, but is probably overextended, quality is arguably slipping, and certain configurations can be less interesting than others
M&W: Small enough to make real custom horns, probably the most gorgeous horns made today
Rath/Packer: British, More niche than Shires, instruments have a higher baseline, but potentially headed in the same direction
Stevens: The rebirth of what made Shires great 3 decades ago
BAC: reworks a lot of vintage instruments, owns the Kanstul tooling, some imported stencils, a lot of cake decorating
Long Island Brass: All over the map, with a lot to prove, probably a better technician than designer
Jin Bao (representing Chinese stencils in general): Quality varies from very good to very bad, mostly copies of existing success stories, or niche vintage stuff that still has appeal
Instruments imported from India: Almost exclusively very bad instruments
Williams et al: fabled small volume manufacturer of legendary reputation
Minick: fabled technician who was mainly known for making alterations to existing instruments, although he also did build horns from the ground up with a combination of new and premade parts, and designed a couple models for Conn-Selmer
Conn-Selmer: Industry giant that is well past its prime, but still makes some stuff worth playing
Olds: defunct, but still a lot of horns in circulation. Generally undervalued instruments, some models were odd, some beautiful, and some were niche
Kanstul: defunct, brought forward traditions from other mfgrs, reputation variable, often tried to mimic the spirit of other classics, best known for marching brass
Getzen: Has overcome a bad reputation, and is probably the shining star of old American instrument manufacturers
Edwards: the oldest of the new school of American instrument manufacturers, a reputation for great but somewhat heavy instruments
Yamaha: A great reputation for consistency and loved by many, but some models have a tendency toward blandness
Shires/Eastman: A reputation as the "it" brand, but is probably overextended, quality is arguably slipping, and certain configurations can be less interesting than others
M&W: Small enough to make real custom horns, probably the most gorgeous horns made today
Rath/Packer: British, More niche than Shires, instruments have a higher baseline, but potentially headed in the same direction
Stevens: The rebirth of what made Shires great 3 decades ago
BAC: reworks a lot of vintage instruments, owns the Kanstul tooling, some imported stencils, a lot of cake decorating
Long Island Brass: All over the map, with a lot to prove, probably a better technician than designer
Jin Bao (representing Chinese stencils in general): Quality varies from very good to very bad, mostly copies of existing success stories, or niche vintage stuff that still has appeal
Instruments imported from India: Almost exclusively very bad instruments
Williams et al: fabled small volume manufacturer of legendary reputation
Minick: fabled technician who was mainly known for making alterations to existing instruments, although he also did build horns from the ground up with a combination of new and premade parts, and designed a couple models for Conn-Selmer
- Aspenforest
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[quote="hyperbolica"]I'm not sure the connections mean the same things to everyone. It might be more helpful if you were just direct about associations[/quote]
But isn't it ever so much more fun to see where this yarn that's being spun goes?
But isn't it ever so much more fun to see where this yarn that's being spun goes?
- hyperbolica
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[quote="Aspenforest"]But isn't it ever so much more fun to see where this yarn that's being spun goes?[/quote]
Not really. It's just going in random directions every time someone interprets Krispy Kreme - Is it just full of empty calories? Icky and too sweet? Unhealthy? Representative of everything that's wrong with old school America? An over-marketed sell-out? Something that's attractive in small portions? Depression era signage? Bad spelling? NASCAR sponsor?
Not really. It's just going in random directions every time someone interprets Krispy Kreme - Is it just full of empty calories? Icky and too sweet? Unhealthy? Representative of everything that's wrong with old school America? An over-marketed sell-out? Something that's attractive in small portions? Depression era signage? Bad spelling? NASCAR sponsor?
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I get it
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[quote="Aspenforest"]<QUOTE author="hyperbolica" post_id="243192" time="1715971424" user_id="104">
I'm not sure the connections mean the same things to everyone. It might be more helpful if you were just direct about associations[/quote]
But isn't it ever so much more fun to see where this yarn that's being spun goes?
</QUOTE>
If there was actually a yarn being spun, yes. Without explanations, it's little more than making a list of sandwich and/or donut/doughnut shops and a list of trombone makers and randomly pairing them up.
Unless, of course, the point is trying to guess why someone thinks A is like B.
[quote="hyperbolica"]Olds: defunct, but still a lot of horns in circulation. Generally undervalued instruments, some models were odd, some beautiful, and some were niche.[/quote]
I'm having a hard time coming up with a good comparison to Olds. If we expand to fast food in general, there's Naugles; once a mainstay here in SoCal (much tastier than Taco Bell of that time), now gone but fondly remembered.
But to me, Naugles is more like Williams - particularly when you throw in that the brand was revived a few years back, but it's not quite the same - not bad, but just not the same.
I'm not sure the connections mean the same things to everyone. It might be more helpful if you were just direct about associations[/quote]
But isn't it ever so much more fun to see where this yarn that's being spun goes?
</QUOTE>
If there was actually a yarn being spun, yes. Without explanations, it's little more than making a list of sandwich and/or donut/doughnut shops and a list of trombone makers and randomly pairing them up.
Unless, of course, the point is trying to guess why someone thinks A is like B.
[quote="hyperbolica"]Olds: defunct, but still a lot of horns in circulation. Generally undervalued instruments, some models were odd, some beautiful, and some were niche.[/quote]
I'm having a hard time coming up with a good comparison to Olds. If we expand to fast food in general, there's Naugles; once a mainstay here in SoCal (much tastier than Taco Bell of that time), now gone but fondly remembered.
But to me, Naugles is more like Williams - particularly when you throw in that the brand was revived a few years back, but it's not quite the same - not bad, but just not the same.
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Olds is like "Big Boy", if you ignore that it still is in business sort of...
- Aspenforest
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[quote="JohnL"]If there was actually a yarn being spun, yes. Without explanations, it's little more than making a list of sandwich and/or donut/doughnut shops and a list of trombone makers and randomly pairing them up.
Unless, of course, the point is trying to guess why someone thinks A is like B.[/quote]
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- hyperbolica
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[quote="Burgerbob"]Shires is Geely/Lotus (the carmaker).[/quote]
??? Exotic and a bit obscure? I'd say more like Tesla - ubiquitous and over rated.
??? Exotic and a bit obscure? I'd say more like Tesla - ubiquitous and over rated.
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I will say that if anything, I'll be keeping Steve's original bells. Both of mine have a VERY high probability of being spun by Steve (Both are from right around 2003-06).
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Ah, that makes things somewhat less unclear. Still don't know what the destination is, but the route seems to be a bit too circuitous for my taste. I think I'll get off the bus at the next stop.
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Ah, that makes things somewhat less unclear. Still don't know what the destination is, but the route seems to be a bit too circuitous for my taste. I think I'll get off the bus at the next stop.
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[quote="harrisonreed"]Olds is like "Big Boy", if you ignore that it still is in business sort of...[/quote]
Howard Johnson's
Howard Johnson's
- Burgerbob
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[quote="hyperbolica"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="243213" time="1715979529" user_id="3131">
Shires is Geely/Lotus (the carmaker).[/quote]
??? Exotic and a bit obscure? I'd say more like Tesla - ubiquitous and over rated.
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Used to make bespoke, great sports cars (with some problems). Got bought out by a Chinese giant and they are trying to expand in every market.
Shires is Geely/Lotus (the carmaker).[/quote]
??? Exotic and a bit obscure? I'd say more like Tesla - ubiquitous and over rated.
</QUOTE>
Used to make bespoke, great sports cars (with some problems). Got bought out by a Chinese giant and they are trying to expand in every market.
- tbdana
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[quote="hyperbolica"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="243213" time="1715979529" user_id="3131">
Shires is Geely/Lotus (the carmaker).[/quote]
??? Exotic and a bit obscure? I'd say more like Tesla - ubiquitous and over rated.
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As one who drives a Tesla, I think they are severely underrated. As for Shires, I dunno.
Shires is Geely/Lotus (the carmaker).[/quote]
??? Exotic and a bit obscure? I'd say more like Tesla - ubiquitous and over rated.
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As one who drives a Tesla, I think they are severely underrated. As for Shires, I dunno.
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This thread is funny, don't let the flame die out
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[quote="JohnL"]Ah, that makes things somewhat less unclear. Still don't know what the destination is, but the route seems to be a bit too circuitous for my taste. I think I'll get off the bus at the next stop.[/quote]
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[quote="WGWTR180"]Is this thread clickbait?[/quote]
No, clickbait is something that should at least be interesting to learn the answer to. With no point, this is just trolling.
Cheers,
Andy
No, clickbait is something that should at least be interesting to learn the answer to. With no point, this is just trolling.
Cheers,
Andy
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[quote="elmsandr"]With no point, this is just trolling.[/quote]
Or rolling. Downhill.
Or rolling. Downhill.
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[quote="harrisonreed"]They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast!
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This thread is funny, don't let the flame die out.[/quote]
Okay ...
Krispy Kreme is a cultural icon -- which isn't to say that they don't contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Diversity and inclusiveness in food and culture (not to mention marketing) requires that we recognize them at least as a high-energy digestible (well, more or less) food-like product. What are you going to attack next? Chicken fried steak with cream gravy? This sort of thing strikes at the very heart of our heritage and culture: Krispy Kreme also sponsors a NASCAR racing team and the legendary Krispy Kreme Challenge where runners are challenged to consume a dozen glazed doughnuts half-way through the race. Try tossing your gauntlet down after you've done that! Not to mention Dolly Parton and the Krispy Kreme Dolly Dazzler Doughnut (which I just did).
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.al.com/life/2024/05/country ... -know.html">https://www.al.com/life/2024/05/country-music-icon-teaming-up-with-krispy-kreme-heres-what-to-know.html</LINK_TEXT>
And you complain about CHEMICALS? I toss your frosting-coated gauntlet back in your face. Vive la Krispy Kreme!!
Disclosure: I don't actually eat them myself. :?
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This thread is funny, don't let the flame die out.[/quote]
Okay ...
Krispy Kreme is a cultural icon -- which isn't to say that they don't contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Diversity and inclusiveness in food and culture (not to mention marketing) requires that we recognize them at least as a high-energy digestible (well, more or less) food-like product. What are you going to attack next? Chicken fried steak with cream gravy? This sort of thing strikes at the very heart of our heritage and culture: Krispy Kreme also sponsors a NASCAR racing team and the legendary Krispy Kreme Challenge where runners are challenged to consume a dozen glazed doughnuts half-way through the race. Try tossing your gauntlet down after you've done that! Not to mention Dolly Parton and the Krispy Kreme Dolly Dazzler Doughnut (which I just did).
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.al.com/life/2024/05/country ... -know.html">https://www.al.com/life/2024/05/country-music-icon-teaming-up-with-krispy-kreme-heres-what-to-know.html</LINK_TEXT>
And you complain about CHEMICALS? I toss your frosting-coated gauntlet back in your face. Vive la Krispy Kreme!!
Disclosure: I don't actually eat them myself. :?
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[quote="ghmerrill"]<QUOTE author="harrisonreed">
They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast!
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This thread is funny, don't let the flame die out.[/quote]
Okay ...
Krispy Kreme is ...
[Something something NASCAR]
And you complain about CHEMICALS? I toss your frosting-coated gauntlet back in your face. Vive la Krispy Kreme!!
Disclosure: I don't actually eat them myself. :?
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Yeah I know, but none of that really matters once You've tried LaMar's. Seriously. It's kind of like once you've tried a classic King or a good Edwards. There's no going back! <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">😁</EMOJI>
[quote="tbdana"]Okay, I'll bite (so to speak). What chemicals?[/quote]
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They contain chemical ingredients that shouldn't be in food. Gauntlet cast!
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This thread is funny, don't let the flame die out.[/quote]
Okay ...
Krispy Kreme is ...
[Something something NASCAR]
And you complain about CHEMICALS? I toss your frosting-coated gauntlet back in your face. Vive la Krispy Kreme!!
Disclosure: I don't actually eat them myself. :?
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Yeah I know, but none of that really matters once You've tried LaMar's. Seriously. It's kind of like once you've tried a classic King or a good Edwards. There's no going back! <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">😁</EMOJI>
[quote="tbdana"]Okay, I'll bite (so to speak). What chemicals?[/quote]
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That’s only what’s divulged. You forgot the secret ingredients.
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Everybody likes a little locust bean gum. And it IS vegan. Now the sorbitan monostearate may be a bit more questionable, but you don't want your donut falling apart as you're gobbling it. Just because the monocalcium phosphate is often used as a fertilizer doesn't mean ... well, I'll pass on that one.
In fact, however, the most dangerous thing for me isn't the funny sounding additives -- it's the DONUT!! :shock: :cry: :lol:
In fact, however, the most dangerous thing for me isn't the funny sounding additives -- it's the DONUT!! :shock: :cry: :lol:
- BGuttman
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They are required to reveal all ingredients -- that's a food law. You can hide "trade secret" ingredients from an MSDS for another product. Note that while they must divulge all ingredients, they do not have to divulge exact formulas. I can make a product with the same materials in different concentrations and the result can be "delicious" or "nauseating" depending on percentages and how they are processed.
The "bad actor" in the Krispy Kreme formula is the glaze. The contents of the donut underneath is not materially different from any other donut.
The "bad actor" in the Krispy Kreme formula is the glaze. The contents of the donut underneath is not materially different from any other donut.
- ghmerrill
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[quote="BGuttman"]The "bad actor" in the Krispy Kreme formula is the glaze.[/quote]
Whatever may be in it, just thinking about it raises glucose your glucose level.
Whatever may be in it, just thinking about it raises glucose your glucose level.
- OneTon
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I had high hopes for a really good conspiracy theory. After all, when it comes to yeast, there’s fungus and then there’s fungus.
- OneTon
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Shires’ yellow brass bells are actually made from recycled Zildjan cymbals. That accounts for their sweet sound.
- harrisonreed
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"it's people... Soylent Q is made out of people"
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Try finding ANY prepared food that doesn't have those ingredients.
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[quote="Aspenforest"]<QUOTE author="JohnL" post_id="243112" time="1715905783" user_id="119">
Trying to see the parallel here.[/quote]
Let's for the sake of argument say that an FE Olds is similar to a Ford? Or mayhaps Olds:White Castle
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More like Studebaker, being as they’re long out of business.
Trying to see the parallel here.[/quote]
Let's for the sake of argument say that an FE Olds is similar to a Ford? Or mayhaps Olds:White Castle
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More like Studebaker, being as they’re long out of business.
- RustBeltBass
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[quote="harrisonreed"]An inferior donut shop in the US[/quote]
Easy there, Partner. :lol:
Easy there, Partner. :lol:
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[quote="RustBeltBass"]<QUOTE author="harrisonreed" post_id="243133" time="1715943934" user_id="3642">
An inferior donut shop in the US[/quote]
Easy there, Partner. :lol:
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One might wonder if "inferior donut shop" is an oxymoron and whether the concept of a superior donut shop isn't a fiction of some elitist subculture. It's not like we're talking about ...
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An inferior donut shop in the US[/quote]
Easy there, Partner. :lol:
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- harrisonreed
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[quote="ghmerrill"]<QUOTE author="RustBeltBass" post_id="243353" time="1716138292" user_id="3536">
Easy there, Partner. :lol:[/quote]
One might wonder if "inferior donut shop" is an oxymoron and whether the concept of a superior donut shop isn't a fiction of some elitist subculture. It's not like we're talking about ...
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Look, I can't help anyone who hasn't had a LaMar's old fashioned sour cream donut. You can't know things you haven't experienced. You walk out of LaMar's and you'd be like:
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate."
Easy there, Partner. :lol:[/quote]
One might wonder if "inferior donut shop" is an oxymoron and whether the concept of a superior donut shop isn't a fiction of some elitist subculture. It's not like we're talking about ...
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Look, I can't help anyone who hasn't had a LaMar's old fashioned sour cream donut. You can't know things you haven't experienced. You walk out of LaMar's and you'd be like:
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate."
- ghmerrill
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Something really bad happened a long time ago when people started putting stuff on the pure donut or making pieces of cake with holes in them and calling them donuts. You can't hardly get a good genuine donut any more. I've had it with these space-age post-modern designer donut-like objects.
- imsevimse
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This is the weirdest thread so far. I've read all of it and do not understand anything. Never been a donut expert which makes all this pointless.
To me your arguments makes as much sense as:
Yamaha = apple
Conn = grape
Bach = banana
Olds = tomato
See my point, it does not contain anything useful, but obviously you understand what you are talking about. Guess it's a language/culture thing I can never understand. :D Please go on and I will get my popcorn.
/Tom
To me your arguments makes as much sense as:
Yamaha = apple
Conn = grape
Bach = banana
Olds = tomato
See my point, it does not contain anything useful, but obviously you understand what you are talking about. Guess it's a language/culture thing I can never understand. :D Please go on and I will get my popcorn.
/Tom
- WilliamLang
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pretty solid fruit comparisons actually
- Posaunus
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[quote="imsevimse"]This is the weirdest thread so far. I've read all of it and do not understand anything. Never been a donut expert which makes all this pointless.
To me your arguments makes as much sense as:
Yamaha = apple
Conn = grape
Bach = banana
Olds = tomato
See my point, it does not contain anything useful, but obviously you understand what you are talking about. Guess it's a language/culture thing I can never understand. :D Please go on and I will get my popcorn.
/Tom[/quote]
Tom is right. Scientists would call this food synesthesia. It's only relevant to the one with those same tastes.
For some music synesthesiasts, A# Major is green, c minor is red, etc.
Apparently for some trombone synesthesiasts, Shires is Krispy Kreme. Makes just as much sense. :idk:
To me your arguments makes as much sense as:
Yamaha = apple
Conn = grape
Bach = banana
Olds = tomato
See my point, it does not contain anything useful, but obviously you understand what you are talking about. Guess it's a language/culture thing I can never understand. :D Please go on and I will get my popcorn.
/Tom[/quote]
Tom is right. Scientists would call this food synesthesia. It's only relevant to the one with those same tastes.
For some music synesthesiasts, A# Major is green, c minor is red, etc.
Apparently for some trombone synesthesiasts, Shires is Krispy Kreme. Makes just as much sense. :idk:
- musicofnote
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- ghmerrill
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While I admire much about the Swiss system, have always felt very comfortable in Switzerland, love to visit it, have worked in Switzerland (for a Swiss company), and have somewhat emotional ties particularly to Basel because of working there and because my Ph.D. advisor was from there (and from an old family-owned flour milling company), when you look at
[quote="musicofnote"]These farmers are producing "bio" because of higher moral values. The profit margin is higher - especially because they don't need the chemical fertilisers and chemical pesticides.[/quote]
You should at least realistically recognize the dissonance between the initial moral claim and the immediately following economic justification in terms of why farmers "are producing bio," and what allows them to continue to do that effectively. But again, you have to admire a nation which has such excellent supermarkets in train stations and produces such wonderfully tasteful health foods as rösti (which my wife absolutely adores). :)
[quote="musicofnote"]These farmers are producing "bio" because of higher moral values. The profit margin is higher - especially because they don't need the chemical fertilisers and chemical pesticides.[/quote]
You should at least realistically recognize the dissonance between the initial moral claim and the immediately following economic justification in terms of why farmers "are producing bio," and what allows them to continue to do that effectively. But again, you have to admire a nation which has such excellent supermarkets in train stations and produces such wonderfully tasteful health foods as rösti (which my wife absolutely adores). :)
- Posaunus
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[quote="ghmerrill"]... you have to admire a nation which ... produces such wonderfully tasteful health foods as rösti. :)[/quote]
<B>Rösti</B> = crispy Swiss potato pancake. Shredded potatoes formed into a thick pancake and fried in butter, oil, or ghee. Sort of like hash browns formed into a pancake, or latkes without eggs or flour. I'm not sure that I would categorize this is a "health food!"
I just returned from Basel where we enjoyed a Rösti dinner at Restauration zur Harmonie. Mine came with a wonderful Kalbsbratwurst (veal sausage) and onion; my wife's Rösti was coated with melted raclette cheese. The meal was delicious, but ... healthy?
<B>Rösti</B> = crispy Swiss potato pancake. Shredded potatoes formed into a thick pancake and fried in butter, oil, or ghee. Sort of like hash browns formed into a pancake, or latkes without eggs or flour. I'm not sure that I would categorize this is a "health food!"
I just returned from Basel where we enjoyed a Rösti dinner at Restauration zur Harmonie. Mine came with a wonderful Kalbsbratwurst (veal sausage) and onion; my wife's Rösti was coated with melted raclette cheese. The meal was delicious, but ... healthy?
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- ghmerrill
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Apparently the Swiss do like a good American "donut" (I use the term in it's current post-modern sense) when they can get one. :) There are Krispy Kreme shops in Lausanne and Geneva, and Dunkin' Donuts in Zurich (3), Basel (1), Geneva (2), Emmen, Bern (3), Urtenen-Schonbuhl (sorry re missing umlauts: I don't have my German keyboard working on Chromebook yet), Hinwil, Friburg, Biel, St. Gallen, Olten, and Interlaken. Of course, perhaps it's only American tourists who buy and eat all these donuts.
For my own part, I'm partial to the bretzel, adorned only with salt.
For my own part, I'm partial to the bretzel, adorned only with salt.
- JeffBone44
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:twisted: [quote="Pezza"]Yes, they are both severely overrated & overpriced.[/quote]
- JeffBone44
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[quote="imsevimse"]This is the weirdest thread so far. I've read all of it and do not understand anything. Never been a donut expert which makes all this pointless.
To me your arguments makes as much sense as:
Yamaha = apple
Conn = grape
Bach = banana
Olds = tomato
See my point, it does not contain anything useful, but obviously you understand what you are talking about. Guess it's a language/culture thing I can never understand. :D Please go on and I will get my popcorn.
/Tom[/quote]
Popcorn? I think that = Holton
To me your arguments makes as much sense as:
Yamaha = apple
Conn = grape
Bach = banana
Olds = tomato
See my point, it does not contain anything useful, but obviously you understand what you are talking about. Guess it's a language/culture thing I can never understand. :D Please go on and I will get my popcorn.
/Tom[/quote]
Popcorn? I think that = Holton
- greenbean
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[quote="AndrewMeronek"]What is Krispy Kreme?[/quote]
Donuts that look great! But are overly sweet and, in the end, disappointing.
Donuts that look great! But are overly sweet and, in the end, disappointing.
- Mikebmiller
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I love me some Krispy Kreemes. There is one about 100 yards down the road from where I grew up going to church and we would often skip Sunday school to go get a doughnut. I rarely go there now, but if I see a box laying around at one of my customers' offices, I have to have one just for old times sake. Even if they are 2 days old.
As far as Shires trombones, I have never owned one, but they seem like darn nice horns. I got a Rath in 2016 and suspect that it will last me the rest of my life.
As far as Shires trombones, I have never owned one, but they seem like darn nice horns. I got a Rath in 2016 and suspect that it will last me the rest of my life.
- mwpfoot
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Donuts make my tummy hurt so they are all trumpets. Dunkin? Trumpets. Krispy? Trumpets. That little shack that switches to fried chicken at lunch time? Trumpet doublers.
:clever:
:clever:
- ghmerrill
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[quote="Mikebmiller"]Even if they are 2 days old.[/quote]
They age relatively well, but (like IPA) that may have been a significant part of the design spec.
They age relatively well, but (like IPA) that may have been a significant part of the design spec.
- greenbean
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The best donuts, you ask?
Stan's Donuts in (Westwood) Los Angeles. :good:
Stan's Donuts in (Westwood) Los Angeles. :good:
- tbdana
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Y'all dissin' Krispy Kremes be nasty. There's nuthin' better than a fresh, hot, Krispy Kreme glaze donut.
- OneTon
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Kristy Kreme Doughnuts are more like Yamaha Intermediate trombones. The Yamaha trombone is mostly yellow brass bell and yellow brass slide, a solid performer, with no surprises. A 1960s to 1970s King 2B is like a chocolate cream filled elclair: Enticing to the eye and full of rich harmonics that light up when it is attacked with a fully supported column of air. The Shires trombones that I own are more like hot Quaker Oats cereal with nothing added but raisins on top. Solid performer. No surprises. And very nutritious. But arguably not significantly better than the store bought house brand with house brand raisins: Think Kuhnl & Hoyer or Schilke built Greenhoe.
Top: Oatmeal
Middle: Krispy Kreme Glazed Doughnut
Bottom: chocolate eclair
Top: Oatmeal
Middle: Krispy Kreme Glazed Doughnut
Bottom: chocolate eclair
- harrisonreed
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I ain't knocking Shires. Especially the ones from when Steve was there -- Shires slides are up there with the Eastlake Conn slides in terms of action, and I mean that as the highest compliment possible. With all the options, they are so all over the place though. I've tried a few that were *spectacular* and a few that were supposed to be like Bach that were not fun to play at all. And then the story of the guy who went to Shires and asked for the reddest trombone he could get, with an oversized red bell. I guess the thing was almost 100% red brass, and played like it to boot.
To liken that to Krispy Kreme though seems like a disservice. Does Krispy Kreme have that kind of variety? Will they make you a donut that consists of only cocoa powder and nothing else, because you wanted the darkest tasting donut of all time? I don't think so! And their slides are garbage.
To liken that to Krispy Kreme though seems like a disservice. Does Krispy Kreme have that kind of variety? Will they make you a donut that consists of only cocoa powder and nothing else, because you wanted the darkest tasting donut of all time? I don't think so! And their slides are garbage.
- OneTon
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All of the Krispy Kreme doughnuts that I have tasted are like raw sugar. I never tried one with Yamaha Slide Lubricant. But I think I’ll take Harrison’s word for the quality of Krispy Kreme slides. There was a thread a year or so ago about overpriced trombones. Shires hardly got mentioned if at all. I don’t know whether that is good or bad.
- ghmerrill
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[quote="OneTon"]I never tried one with Yamaha Slide Lubricant.[/quote]
Now that you mention it, the icing on them does look a lot like Yamaha Slide Lubricant.
Now that you mention it, the icing on them does look a lot like Yamaha Slide Lubricant.
- tbdana
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[quote="ghmerrill"]<QUOTE author="OneTon" post_id="243468" time="1716267911" user_id="13549">
I never tried one with Yamaha Slide Lubricant.[/quote]
Now that you mention it, the icing on them does look a lot like Yamaha Slide Lubricant.
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This is the best thread ever.
And now I'll never be able to eat a glazed Krispy Kreme without thinking it's covered in Yamasnot.
I never tried one with Yamaha Slide Lubricant.[/quote]
Now that you mention it, the icing on them does look a lot like Yamaha Slide Lubricant.
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This is the best thread ever.
And now I'll never be able to eat a glazed Krispy Kreme without thinking it's covered in Yamasnot.
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[quote="harrisonreed"]<QUOTE author="JKBone85" post_id="243167" time="1715963410" user_id="15520">
Most certainly not inferior to Dunkin. Quite the opposite.[/quote]
I didn't say anything about Dunkin'. Krispy Kreme is full of chemicals and preservatives -- their donuts are gross. Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' shouldn't even register on the scale.
If comparing trombone shops to donut shops, I'd say Edwards at least is on par with LaMar's. The 396-A is like their old fashioned sour cream donut. The jury is out for me on Shires. Certainly not a Krispy Kreme equivalent, though -- that joint doesn't even know how to spell words, let alone make donuts.
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I was trying to point out that even though KK is an inferior donut to many, Dunkin is not one of them. They are both terrible. It's also strange to make a donut analogy and not compare us to Dunkin Donuts. We are literally down the road from their headquarters.
Most certainly not inferior to Dunkin. Quite the opposite.[/quote]
I didn't say anything about Dunkin'. Krispy Kreme is full of chemicals and preservatives -- their donuts are gross. Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' shouldn't even register on the scale.
If comparing trombone shops to donut shops, I'd say Edwards at least is on par with LaMar's. The 396-A is like their old fashioned sour cream donut. The jury is out for me on Shires. Certainly not a Krispy Kreme equivalent, though -- that joint doesn't even know how to spell words, let alone make donuts.
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I was trying to point out that even though KK is an inferior donut to many, Dunkin is not one of them. They are both terrible. It's also strange to make a donut analogy and not compare us to Dunkin Donuts. We are literally down the road from their headquarters.
- ghmerrill
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[quote="tbdana"]And now I'll never be able to eat a glazed Krispy Kreme without thinking it's covered in Yamasnot.[/quote]
I think you can probably comfort yourself in this regard with the thought that use of Yamasnot (even in production quantities) would likely make the Krispy Kreme prohibitively expensive. There's barely enough in one bottle for a single donut -- not that I've actually tried that.
I think you can probably comfort yourself in this regard with the thought that use of Yamasnot (even in production quantities) would likely make the Krispy Kreme prohibitively expensive. There's barely enough in one bottle for a single donut -- not that I've actually tried that.
- OneTon
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[quote="harrisonreed"]
It's also strange to make a donut analogy and not compare us to Dunkin Donuts. We are literally down the road from their headquarters.[/quote]
TMI. ;-)
It's also strange to make a donut analogy and not compare us to Dunkin Donuts. We are literally down the road from their headquarters.[/quote]
TMI. ;-)
- harrisonreed
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[quote="OneTon"]<QUOTE author="harrisonreed" post_id="243180" time="1715967124" user_id="3642">
It's also strange to make a donut analogy and not compare us to Dunkin Donuts. We are literally down the road from their headquarters.[/quote]
TMI. ;-)
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I didn't write that
It's also strange to make a donut analogy and not compare us to Dunkin Donuts. We are literally down the road from their headquarters.[/quote]
TMI. ;-)
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I didn't write that
- harrisonreed
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[quote="OneTon"]Sorry Harrison.[/quote]
It's okay. it's all donuts under the bridge. Krispy Kreme ones, that is. I would never throw good donuts into the river.
It's okay. it's all donuts under the bridge. Krispy Kreme ones, that is. I would never throw good donuts into the river.
- KWL
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[quote="Bach5G"]93 replies. Amazing.[/quote]
At one point there was hope for this thread with the drift to the Rösti discussion.
Ken
At one point there was hope for this thread with the drift to the Rösti discussion.
Ken
- BrassSection
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Had a Krispy Kreme in our area. I didn’t like them, evidently a lot of people didn’t, they didn't last very long before they closed down. Dunkin…enjoyed them many moons ago when they first opened near me. 10 cents each or a buck a dozen. My cousin and I agree they have gone downhill fast the last ten years, and he’s in the Baltimore market. Summary, DD is over priced and over rated. Best donuts I ever had here were from an Amish town about 45 minutes away. Opened at 5 AM and closed when he ran out, usually by 9 AM. Alas, after several years Sweeties closed down.
- ghmerrill
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Can't y'all get Krispy Kremes in your local Food Lion or Piggly Wiggly's? No need for a dedicated Krispy Kreme store. :roll: What kind of deprived areas do people live in that they can't just go into the local grocery or drug store and pick up a box of Krispy Kremes? That would be awful.
- flyingcow
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[quote="ghmerrill"]Can't y'all get Krispy Kremes in your local Food Lion or Piggly Wiggly's? No need for a dedicated Krispy Kreme store. :roll: What kind of deprived areas do people live in that they can't just go into the local grocery or drug store and pick up a box of Krispy Kremes? That would be awful.[/quote]
A Krispy Kreme isn't a Krispy Kreme unless the red light is on.
A Krispy Kreme isn't a Krispy Kreme unless the red light is on.
- Posaunus
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[quote="ghmerrill"]Can't y'all get Krispy Kremes in your local Food Lion or Piggly Wiggly's? No need for a dedicated Krispy Kreme store. :roll: What kind of deprived areas do people live in that they can't just go into the local grocery or drug store and pick up a box of Krispy Kremes? That would be awful.[/quote]
Yum. Stale, overly-sugared, chemically-contaminated donuts in a box. To me that "would be awful!"
Y'all in the south seem to have succumbed to some sort of unhealthy addiction to this life-shortening junk food. :horror:
Yum. Stale, overly-sugared, chemically-contaminated donuts in a box. To me that "would be awful!"
Y'all in the south seem to have succumbed to some sort of unhealthy addiction to this life-shortening junk food. :horror:
- ghmerrill
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[quote="flyingcow"]A Krispy Kreme isn't a Krispy Kreme unless the red light is on.[/quote]
"Krispy Kreme suus ubicumque inveneris." (It's a Krispy Kreme wherever you find it.)
William of Occam, Summa Logicae (circa 1325) -- a somewhat disputed passage, but one on which Krispy Kreme scholars generally agree.
"Krispy Kreme suus ubicumque inveneris." (It's a Krispy Kreme wherever you find it.)
William of Occam, Summa Logicae (circa 1325) -- a somewhat disputed passage, but one on which Krispy Kreme scholars generally agree.
- ghmerrill
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[quote="Posaunus"]Y'all in the south seem to have succumbed to some sort of unhealthy addiction to this life-shortening junk food. :horror:[/quote]
Well, that could start a whole other discussion about cultural roots of diet. But I'm not responsible. I'm from the north and have just lived here for about 40 years (come to think of it, that's more than half my life :roll: ). I just try to get along and fit in. But I do draw some lines. I won't eat "country ham" -- at least not any I've ever seen. And I haven't gone for the whole deep-fried turkey yet. But life is short. Why make it also intolerable without bad food? In terms of donuts, I might have one every few months -- and then definitely not a Krispy Kreme -- or any other donut with "stuff" on it. :lol:
Well, that could start a whole other discussion about cultural roots of diet. But I'm not responsible. I'm from the north and have just lived here for about 40 years (come to think of it, that's more than half my life :roll: ). I just try to get along and fit in. But I do draw some lines. I won't eat "country ham" -- at least not any I've ever seen. And I haven't gone for the whole deep-fried turkey yet. But life is short. Why make it also intolerable without bad food? In terms of donuts, I might have one every few months -- and then definitely not a Krispy Kreme -- or any other donut with "stuff" on it. :lol:
- tbdana
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[quote="flyingcow"]<QUOTE author="ghmerrill" post_id="243560" time="1716421404" user_id="2941">
Can't y'all get Krispy Kremes in your local Food Lion or Piggly Wiggly's? No need for a dedicated Krispy Kreme store. :roll: What kind of deprived areas do people live in that they can't just go into the local grocery or drug store and pick up a box of Krispy Kremes? That would be awful.[/quote]
A Krispy Kreme isn't a Krispy Kreme unless the red light is on.
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That is exactly right. You can't understand unless you've had one.
Can't y'all get Krispy Kremes in your local Food Lion or Piggly Wiggly's? No need for a dedicated Krispy Kreme store. :roll: What kind of deprived areas do people live in that they can't just go into the local grocery or drug store and pick up a box of Krispy Kremes? That would be awful.[/quote]
A Krispy Kreme isn't a Krispy Kreme unless the red light is on.
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That is exactly right. You can't understand unless you've had one.