trombone stand

jfumasoli · by **jfumasoli** » 2024-09-11 9:23 a.m.

Looking for a new trombone stand-small bore horns King 2B. I see Hamilton and K and M. Suggestions?

BGuttman · by **BGuttman** » 2024-09-11 12:06 p.m.

The K&M in-bell stand is awful. I use the one that looks like a Hamilton on steroids. There is a bigger one that is even better, but you don't really need it for a small and light horn. I used a Hamilton for years. It works OK, but you have to set it up properly, and if somebody steps on one of the legs it can be ruined.

If you were talking about a bass trombone that is twice as heavy my recommendation might change. They need sturdier stands.

Kevbach33 · by **Kevbach33** » 2024-09-11 12:36 p.m.

A basic Hamilton works, but the K and M 14985 (tube leg design) is your friend. Fairly light with a weighty base, collapses pretty small, rather inexpensive, really excellent for all tenors and is stable enough for a bass in a pinch. It's my pick for tenor.

I think Bruce is talking about the 14990, one of the strongest stands I have seen. To me, it's a bit much for a small bore, but if stability is the goal, it's hard to beat.

If you have the money and need to store it in the bell, by all means go for the woodwind design carbon stand.

ghmerrill · by **ghmerrill** » 2024-09-11 1:20 p.m.

I have an old Hamilton that I use at home and is never taken down. For that, it's fine. For anything else, ... :roll: I regard it as pretty crude decades old technology.

For rehearsals and gigs I have one of the K&M 14990 stands. It's certainly a bit more than a light trombone needs, but it's very adjustable, easy to adjust, very stable, and compacts to only 22" long. Unless weight or cost is an object, you'll never regret having it.

NotSkilledHere · by **NotSkilledHere** » 2024-09-11 2:20 p.m.

I personally never recommend those super collapsible in-bell ones. ive heard so many stories about the stands collapsing or the stand damaging the bell from being stored in it for transport.

The 14990 previous people ahve mentioned isnt like "heavy" so you can easily fold it up and take it with you. and for a high quality horn, i think it's worth just that small bit of effort to take it with you for peace of mind when you put your horn on it.

walldaja · by **walldaja** » 2024-09-11 2:26 p.m.

I use an On-Stage (TS7101B) stand and it does a great job, very similar in design to the K&M but for half the price. Have a single valve bass sitting on it right now and it is quite stable.

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2024-09-11 3:00 p.m.

I travel to rehearsals & gigs with one of these trombone stands, available from your favorite retailer:

• K & M Model #14985 (less than $50, adjustable, sturdy, works fine for tenor trombones)

• On-Stage Model #TS7101B (less than $30; adjustable, spring-loaded bell cup, works fine for tenor trombones)

• K & M Model #14990 (less than $80, adjustable, very sturdy, heavier than 14985, I use for bass trombone)

All these I carry in an inexpensive tripod bag - e.g., Slik TBM Medium Tripod Bag - for Tripods up to 24" Long (~$10).

At home I use a Hamilton Model #KB510 stand (always set up ready to use).

All my trombone stands function well, but I'm always diligent about them being knocked over by others. :horror:

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2024-09-11 6:15 p.m.

I have 12 stands of 7 different models. I've left a couple at gig venues over the years. Of the ones still made, I like the in-bell models the least. The best for me are the K&M 14985 because they work solidly. The 14990 is too heavy and has sharp edges. The On-Stage has a plastic collar for tightening the main collapsible cone, and sometimes it is too flexible to get enough grip to loosen it. I've got 2 stuck right now. I've owned the Aida, which is a great camera tripod type of quality stand, but it's hard to find and expensive. I haven't bought a Woodwind Design carbon fiber stand yet because it's even more expensive than the Aida and I think I can make one of those much cheaper.

mazman · by **mazman** » 2024-09-11 7:33 p.m.

Hamilton, sock, and replacement end stopper. You need a 5/8" rubber chair leg foot. Get the one that looks the fattest. The other stands suck. Keep your slide over a leg. I've used one for 40 years.

If you want to go super pro, stick the top part of a Hamilton stand into a medium duty Gibraltor cymbal stand and you have the ultimate.

AtomicClock · by **AtomicClock** » 2024-09-11 7:48 p.m.

Do people use socks with everything, or just Hamiltons?

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2024-09-11 8:02 p.m.

I use a Hamilton micro-fiber "Bone Sock" with each of my trombone stands. Works as advertised - does the job well for a small investment.

mazman · by **mazman** » 2024-09-11 8:48 p.m.

[quote="AtomicClock"]Do people use socks with everything, or just Hamiltons?[/quote]

I use an old black sock. No special sock is required. It cushions the bell and makes it fit tighter.

walldaja · by **walldaja** » 2024-09-11 9:35 p.m.

Use a Hamilton sock on my On-Stage. Used a tube sock for a while but looks tacky when you sit in front row.

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2024-09-11 10:07 p.m.

[quote="AtomicClock"]Do people use socks with everything, or just Hamiltons?[/quote]

I ordered a bunch of black socks with no heels. The straight tubes fit the stand best, and black never looks nasty like white socks.

AtomicClock · by **AtomicClock** » 2024-09-11 10:20 p.m.

[quote="AtomicClock"]Do people use socks with everything, or just Hamiltons?[/quote]

I ask because I used a sock with Hamilton, but gave it up when switching to K&M. Now my 42 has a little lacquer loss right at the contact point.

NotSkilledHere · by **NotSkilledHere** » 2024-09-11 11:24 p.m.

i just bought a huge pack of straight tube socks off amazon. soft and works well

chouston3 · by **chouston3** » 2024-09-12 12:09 a.m.

Anyone use this stand?

<LINK_TEXT text="https://herculesstands.com/internationa ... one/ds520b">https://herculesstands.com/international/products/winds-and-percussion/trombone/ds520b</LINK_TEXT>

NotSkilledHere · by **NotSkilledHere** » 2024-09-12 12:50 a.m.

[quote="chouston3"]Anyone use this stand?

<LINK_TEXT text="https://herculesstands.com/internationa ... one/ds520b">https://herculesstands.com/international/products/winds-and-percussion/trombone/ds520b</LINK_TEXT>[/quote]

I own 2 of them and they work great but your slide needs to be just the right width for the expanding slide holder section clicky adjuster to click into a slot to hold it perfectly otherwise your horn will wobble and give yo lots of anxiety. good stand especially if you really want to show off your horn.

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2024-09-12 8:15 a.m.

[quote="chouston3"]Anyone use this stand?

<LINK_TEXT text="https://herculesstands.com/internationa ... one/ds520b">https://herculesstands.com/international/products/winds-and-percussion/trombone/ds520b</LINK_TEXT>[/quote]

I have one, and its ok for horns without a trigger. Doesn't work for basses. The weight from the valves causes the horn to rotate in the grip. It's the only stand that will hold a trombone with a mute in the bell.

ghmerrill · by **ghmerrill** » 2024-09-12 9:29 a.m.

I've seen someone use one, and it's a pretty cool concept. But my impression was that it actually took up more floor space than a traditional stand (if you count not just the footprint of the stand itself, but the "air space" over the floor taken up by the slide because it's angled out). That concerns me a bit because it's easy to imagine woodwind or high brass players more readily tripping over the end of your slide. :shock:

I would probably try one -- except they don't work for a bass.

walldaja · by **walldaja** » 2024-09-12 10:51 a.m.

I use one at home and when I play at church (where it needs to sit in a relatively undisturbed area). Works great but absolutely won't work on a two valve bass due to the second trigger being in the way. Also, once you fit the slide width to a particular horn it won't hold another horn with a different width slide so not good for using as a single stand while trading horns.

jfumasoli · by **jfumasoli** » 2024-09-12 3:51 p.m.

Thanks for the help! Prob gonna go with a K+M

cmcslide · by **cmcslide** » 2024-09-12 3:53 p.m.

I use the Hercules with my 2b. The slide is pretty narrow, and I don't have to expand the handgrip on the stand for it at all. It fits quite snugly.

pbone3b · by **pbone3b** » 2024-09-13 10:28 a.m.

[quote="Posaunus"]All my trombone stands function well, but I'm always diligent about them being knocked over by others. :horror:[/quote]
That's always an issue for me too. Someone yanks on a mic cable, squeezes through a cramped stage, etc...

I had a horn wrecked years ago (left on the bandstand on a stand) when a fight broke out on the dance floor.

So, while on a gig, the horn is in my hand, next to me on a horn stand, or in a case/bog.

Reedman1 · by **Reedman1** » 2024-09-13 9:37 p.m.

I use the Aida stand. A little pricey, but great for lightweight horns.

heldenbone · by **heldenbone** » 2024-09-14 11:00 a.m.

+1 for the Aida stand. It's durable, stable enough for a large tenor or even a bass if you orient your slide with care or allow it to rest the bumper on the floor. The Aida will collapse down to 14-15", so will fit in a small duffel with a folding music stand and st. mute.

ssking2b · by **ssking2b** » 2024-09-22 12:35 p.m.

The Aida stand mis great. also, the woodwind design in bell stand I have used for many years is great. Both are pricy, but excellent.

Here is a link to the woodwind design stand at The Horn Guys:

<LINK_TEXT text="https://hornguys.com/collections/trombo ... bone-stand">https://hornguys.com/collections/trombone-stands/products/woodwinddesign-carbon-trombone-stand</LINK_TEXT>

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