Convertible Horn Advantage
- walldaja
- Posts: 537
- Joined: Jul 11, 2018
Never considered a convertible horn as a maintenance plus but took the valve out of my Shires Q to make it more convenient to clean some gunk that was starting to live in my F attachment. Made it much easier to clean the F attachment tubing without any chance of damaging the bell. I was somewhat surprised how easy it came apart and went back together too.
Just a thot....
Just a thot....
- Matt_K
- Posts: 4809
- Joined: Mar 21, 2018
Modularity was initially added due to the way that Thayer valves are shaped. To do regular maintenance on them, you have to disattach it from the bell!
- Burgerbob
- Posts: 6327
- Joined: Apr 23, 2018
Definitely less of a hassle to clean/service valves on a valve section only.
- brassmedic
- Posts: 1447
- Joined: Dec 14, 2018
[quote="Matt K"]Modularity was initially added due to the way that Thayer valves are shaped. To do regular maintenance on them, you have to disattach it from the bell![/quote]
Interestingly, Thayers were not modular originally. It was necessary for the top to be removable, but the bottom was permanently attached to the bell brace.
Interestingly, Thayers were not modular originally. It was necessary for the top to be removable, but the bottom was permanently attached to the bell brace.
- AtomicClock
- Posts: 1094
- Joined: Oct 19, 2023
I wonder if anyone ships (or baggage checks) bell sections disassembled. Seems to me it would lessen any impact damage on the bell flare because the valve weight is detached.
- hornbuilder
- Posts: 1384
- Joined: May 02, 2018
The way the bell is packed makes much more of a difference than if the valve section is attached or not.
- GabrielRice
- Posts: 1496
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="AtomicClock"]I wonder if anyone ships (or baggage checks) bell sections disassembled. Seems to me it would lessen any impact damage on the bell flare because the valve weight is detached.[/quote]
We did not ship this way when I was working at Shires, but for personal travel it is something Steve Shires has recommended. If you're flying in such a way that you must check a suitcase and a trombone case, you can reduce the risk by packing the valve section (and maybe the main tuning slide) in the middle of the suitcase and immobilizing the bell in the trombone case by packing clothes around it.
Also, Matthew is right.
We did not ship this way when I was working at Shires, but for personal travel it is something Steve Shires has recommended. If you're flying in such a way that you must check a suitcase and a trombone case, you can reduce the risk by packing the valve section (and maybe the main tuning slide) in the middle of the suitcase and immobilizing the bell in the trombone case by packing clothes around it.
Also, Matthew is right.
- Crazy4Tbone86
- Posts: 1654
- Joined: Jan 14, 2020
From a construction/assembly and buffing perspective, open wrap modular bells are much easier to prepare. When the bell is removed, it is much more convenient to buff almost every spot of the F-attachment with a buffing wheel…… same for the bell when it is not attached to the valve section. Other wrap designs and non-modular bell sections require hand wicking because the design creates more nooks and crannies.
- WGWTR180
- Posts: 2152
- Joined: Sep 04, 2019
Modular instruments are great for the maker's bank accounts as the design entices everyone to try virtually everything they make so see if it makes a difference in our playing. Most of us will admit that it really makes relatively little difference compared to what we spend.