Fitting a bell to Edwards section
- bassbone1993
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Has anybody been able to retrofit a bell to an Edwards valve section/tuning slide? I've seen a lot of Shires and Bach retrofits, but not Edwards.
- Burgerbob
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Edwards are very big in the tuning slide. That large leg is way bigger than almost any existing bells out there.
- bassbone1993
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Gotcha. I'll be coming into possession of a bell that isn't set up to be mounted to any maker, so the bell receiver isn't set up for any maker. Similar to the O'Malley bells on their website
- hornbuilder
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It is absolutely possible. You just need the appropriate tuning slide receiver tube/bell ferrule. As Aidan mentioned though, there will be a BIG step down in diameter from the tuning slide receiver tube to the top of the bell diameter.
- bassboneman69
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Edwards sells mounting kits.
$175 + shipping.
$175 + shipping.
- elmsandr
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I put a 50B on an Edwards setup. Liked it better than most the Edwards bells, but I overall preferred to also have a Bach tuning slide. That back end on the Edwards basses is huge.
Cheers,
Andy
Cheers,
Andy
- WGWTR180
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[quote="bassbone1993"]Gotcha. I'll be coming into possession of a bell that isn't set up to be mounted to any maker, so the bell receiver isn't set up for any maker. Similar to the O'Malley bells on their website[/quote]
You might want to think about changing tuning slides too. It can be done as others have said but you'll be moving down quite a bit from the tuning slide to the bell through the hardware. Might blow funky. Funkily? Well you get it.
You might want to think about changing tuning slides too. It can be done as others have said but you'll be moving down quite a bit from the tuning slide to the bell through the hardware. Might blow funky. Funkily? Well you get it.
- joe029
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[quote="Burgerbob"]Edwards are very big in the tuning slide. That large leg is way bigger than almost any existing bells out there.[/quote]
In terms of intonation, there are no problems if the difference in size between the tuning slide and the bell is somewhat greater?
In terms of intonation, there are no problems if the difference in size between the tuning slide and the bell is somewhat greater?
- Burgerbob
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[quote="joe029"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="257982" time="1731003563" user_id="3131">
Edwards are very big in the tuning slide. That large leg is way bigger than almost any existing bells out there.[/quote]
In terms of intonation, there are no problems if the difference in size between the tuning slide and the bell is somewhat greater?
</QUOTE>
I'm not entirely sure of your question
Edwards are very big in the tuning slide. That large leg is way bigger than almost any existing bells out there.[/quote]
In terms of intonation, there are no problems if the difference in size between the tuning slide and the bell is somewhat greater?
</QUOTE>
I'm not entirely sure of your question
- joe029
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[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="joe029" post_id="268442" time="1740693174" user_id="17407">
In terms of intonation, there are no problems if the difference in size between the tuning slide and the bell is somewhat greater?[/quote]
I'm not entirely sure of your question
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Hey Aiden,
thanks for your quick reply.
You meant that the tuning slide on the bell side is very large on Edwards. The Shires and Bach cups are probably designed for a smaller tuning slide. My question was if this is noticeable in the intonation? In other words, whether this can lead to problems if you play a Bach bell on an Edwards, for example. Perhaps it has no influence at all.
Sorry if my English is not so good.
In terms of intonation, there are no problems if the difference in size between the tuning slide and the bell is somewhat greater?[/quote]
I'm not entirely sure of your question
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Hey Aiden,
thanks for your quick reply.
You meant that the tuning slide on the bell side is very large on Edwards. The Shires and Bach cups are probably designed for a smaller tuning slide. My question was if this is noticeable in the intonation? In other words, whether this can lead to problems if you play a Bach bell on an Edwards, for example. Perhaps it has no influence at all.
Sorry if my English is not so good.
- elmsandr
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No intonation issues other than like switching any flares.
And yes it is bigger on the Edwards, but having the ferrules fit going from one to the other is something than can be done in minutes with the proper tools. For example, I know that I changed over my Holton cut bell from Edwards mounts and tuning slide to match my Bach/ Thayer mounts in like an Hour. Little bit of work, but not difficult.
Cheers,
Andy
And yes it is bigger on the Edwards, but having the ferrules fit going from one to the other is something than can be done in minutes with the proper tools. For example, I know that I changed over my Holton cut bell from Edwards mounts and tuning slide to match my Bach/ Thayer mounts in like an Hour. Little bit of work, but not difficult.
Cheers,
Andy