Suggestions for replacing a Yamaha Allegro (F ATT)with a Bach straight tenor
- slidehand47
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Here’s my problem. I want to find a Bach straight pro tenor
to mimic my Yamaha Allegro (F ATT).
Reason for this is to locate a horn that responds like or better than the Yamaha and offers Bach quality and hopefully sounds darker than the 2000-ish pro Bach models I once tried at a music store. (Those Bachs were very difficult to play much less improvise with.) Mission impossible??
to mimic my Yamaha Allegro (F ATT).
Reason for this is to locate a horn that responds like or better than the Yamaha and offers Bach quality and hopefully sounds darker than the 2000-ish pro Bach models I once tried at a music store. (Those Bachs were very difficult to play much less improvise with.) Mission impossible??
- MStarke
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Doesn't sound very much like you should be looking (only) for a Bach...
And coming from a Yamaha, I don't understand which level of quality you are expecting in a Bach.
And coming from a Yamaha, I don't understand which level of quality you are expecting in a Bach.
- Posaunus
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[quote="slidehand47"]" <I>Bach quality</I> " :roll:[/quote]
- BGuttman
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If I remember correctly the Allegro is a large bore with F. If so, a Yamaha 681 or 610 would be a drop in replacement straight horn (interchange slides and bells). If it's a medium bore, the same could be said of the 683 or 630.
- slidehand47
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Thanks to everyone.
Another question occurs to me…
Did Olds or Reynolds make worthwhile jazz horns?
Specific identification, if so, please.
Thanks in advance
Another question occurs to me…
Did Olds or Reynolds make worthwhile jazz horns?
Specific identification, if so, please.
Thanks in advance
- BGuttman
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Reynolds Argrnta
Olds Recording, Radio, Super (possibly others)
Any of these is going to be pretty old.
Olds Recording, Radio, Super (possibly others)
Any of these is going to be pretty old.
- Geordie
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I agree with Bruce about the Olds Recording. The Olds Special is also commonly much under rated. Both good horns in my experience, I still have them.
Bought my Recording from this site, excellent condition - goes to show they are out there. Both my Olds are straight, so cannot comment on the valves.
Bought my Recording from this site, excellent condition - goes to show they are out there. Both my Olds are straight, so cannot comment on the valves.
- Posaunus
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[quote="slidehand47"]Another question occurs to me…
Did Olds or Reynolds make worthwhile jazz horns?
Specific identification, if so, please.[/quote]
In the last few weeks, I've played an Olds Studio T15 (Los Angeles, 1954) and an Olds Recording R15 (Fullerton, 1968) in jazz settings (mostly Dixieland). Both trombones in excellent shape. Played with Doug Elliott mouthpiece with Olds shank (works much better for me than the original Olds mouthpieces). Recording also sounded fine in big band.
Today, I played the Studio in a small jazz ensemble; mostly tunes from 1930s to 1950s. It sounded sweet!
Recently was in a group with a friend who had a Cleveland-era Reynolds small-bore - sounded fine to me, and he was pleased. A few years ago, I sold a Reynolds Contempora Model 35 (0.520" bore with F-attachment) which worked pretty well as 3rd trombone in a big band.
Did Olds or Reynolds make worthwhile jazz horns?
Specific identification, if so, please.[/quote]
In the last few weeks, I've played an Olds Studio T15 (Los Angeles, 1954) and an Olds Recording R15 (Fullerton, 1968) in jazz settings (mostly Dixieland). Both trombones in excellent shape. Played with Doug Elliott mouthpiece with Olds shank (works much better for me than the original Olds mouthpieces). Recording also sounded fine in big band.
Today, I played the Studio in a small jazz ensemble; mostly tunes from 1930s to 1950s. It sounded sweet!
Recently was in a group with a friend who had a Cleveland-era Reynolds small-bore - sounded fine to me, and he was pleased. A few years ago, I sold a Reynolds Contempora Model 35 (0.520" bore with F-attachment) which worked pretty well as 3rd trombone in a big band.
- Posaunus
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[quote="slidehand47"]Did Olds or Reynolds make worthwhile jazz horns?[/quote]
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