Bach "B" marking on small shank mouthpieces
- Burgerbob
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Usually, a B marking on a Bach mouthpiece means the Beversdorf rim. I'm well aware of that, I have a 4GB in large shank that is actually quite good.
I just bought a 3GB on eBay, thinking it would be a 3G in large shank with a Beversdorf rim. Lo and behold, it's a 3G in small shank with a normal rim. The B is marked below the 3G on the cup, rather than after it. I guess if I ever get a .525 I'll have something to play it with.
Octavposaune told me of a couple more examples he's seen of Bach bass trombone mouthpieces in small shank marked with a B... Anyone else got a story behind this?
I just bought a 3GB on eBay, thinking it would be a 3G in large shank with a Beversdorf rim. Lo and behold, it's a 3G in small shank with a normal rim. The B is marked below the 3G on the cup, rather than after it. I guess if I ever get a .525 I'll have something to play it with.
Octavposaune told me of a couple more examples he's seen of Bach bass trombone mouthpieces in small shank marked with a B... Anyone else got a story behind this?
- CalgaryTbone
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I could be wrong on this, but I think it refers to "baritone horn". A lot of American-made baritones/euphoniums were built with a small shank receiver. I'm pretty sure that a colleague had a 5GB that wasn't the rounded Beaversdorf rim, but was instead a small shank mouthpiece that he used in a Yamaha 321. That mouthpiece was made before small shank 5G's were in Bach's catalog.
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- bimmerman
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Ha, so you bought that one! I'd be happy to take it off your hands....
I have a small shank 5GB B that seems to be the same thing. Non-standard large shank mpc on small shank gives the second B.
I have a small shank 5GB B that seems to be the same thing. Non-standard large shank mpc on small shank gives the second B.
- modelerdc
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The B on the shank means baritone. I once a a 5GB with an additional B on the intermediate sized shank, it was a 5G with Beversdorff rim and a shank for a Besson pre '74 intermediate shank euphonium.
- mrdeacon
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Are you guys sure it means baritone? Or... does it actually mean bass?
For a number of years the British G bass was still in vogue and it seems like all these pieces are 5G+ sizes which would fall in the range of the British G bass.
I've got an Mount Vernon 2G, that is clearly a 2G, but it has a small shank on it!!! It was originally made for a British G bass. No additional B on this guy though but it was from the Mount Vernon years before they got constant with stamping.
Just food for thought!
For a number of years the British G bass was still in vogue and it seems like all these pieces are 5G+ sizes which would fall in the range of the British G bass.
I've got an Mount Vernon 2G, that is clearly a 2G, but it has a small shank on it!!! It was originally made for a British G bass. No additional B on this guy though but it was from the Mount Vernon years before they got constant with stamping.
Just food for thought!
- modelerdc
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One thing that makes me think the B means baritone instead of bass is that these mouthpieces were always already marketed in stock form as bass trombone mouthpieces anyway!
- Burgerbob
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[quote="modelerdc"]One thing that makes me think the B means baritone instead of bass is that these mouthpieces were always already marketed in stock form as bass trombone mouthpieces anyway![/quote]
But not in small shank!
But not in small shank!
- Matt_K
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I'd be interested in knowing this as well. I have a Mt. Vernon
3G
B
With the "B" centered between the two.... but it has a threaded rim! THey aren't done particularly well. Bucket list to have Doug make a rim for me. Its much smaller than a 3G rim... or at least it feels so. But it's quite deep. Like, 2G depth by my eye.
3G
B
With the "B" centered between the two.... but it has a threaded rim! THey aren't done particularly well. Bucket list to have Doug make a rim for me. Its much smaller than a 3G rim... or at least it feels so. But it's quite deep. Like, 2G depth by my eye.