Deepest mouthpiece in 28-27.7mm

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JackMyung
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by JackMyung »

Hello, I am a utility trombonist mainly plays bass.

A few days ago, I discovered an emboucher problem and changed the size of the mouthpiece.

The mouthpiece I was previously using was Greg Black 1g.

However, this time I changed to JK 1Ak and felt very stuffy due to the relatively shallow cup.

So this time, the same rim size (28mm or slightly smaller) I am looking for a mouthpiece with a deeper cup.

(In fact, I want Gregg Black, but taxes are high in Korea)

Do you know a mouthpiece that fits this option? (It would be better if it was less than $150, but don't care about that)
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LIBrassCo
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by LIBrassCo »

Pollard Sarastro Gravitas 800 is crazy deep. There's a link in my signature.
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boneberg
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by boneberg »

The JK 1AK does have a deep cup with a large backbore (8mm). I play a JK 1BK which is only slightly smaller regarding cup and back bore (7.6mm). I really like the 28mm rim.
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JackMyung
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by JackMyung »

[quote="LIBrassCo"]Pollard Sarastro Gravitas 800 is crazy deep. There's a link in my signature.[/quote]

very interested I hope play your MP soon of late
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JackMyung
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by JackMyung »

[quote="boneberg"]The JK 1AK does have a deep cup with a large backbore (8mm). I play a JK 1BK which is only slightly smaller regarding cup and back bore (7.6mm). I really like the 28mm rim.[/quote]

Yeah definitely AK cup is one of the deep cups

But I felt it can’t accept lots of air

(Maybe I blew too loudly but It was necessary at that time)

When I played greg black 1g that was enough

So I looking for deepest cup in 28mm like black 1-3/8
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tbonesullivan
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by tbonesullivan »

I'd recommend consulting with a mouthpiece designer or working professional to diagnose your issues. Who did you work with when determining that you had an "embouchure problem" a few days ago?

Mouthpieces are not cheap, and just buying a bunch trying to fix a perceived issue with solutions that may not work is not exactly a good idea, IMHO.
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modelerdc
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by modelerdc »

You could try the Wick 00AL.28mm rim and deeper cup than most, too deep for me on bass trombone.
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u_30hzbone
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by u_30hzbone »

For a couple of months now I've been playing on a Wick 0AL with 27.42 rim and a deep cup.

Love the wonderful bass trombone sound it creates.
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modelerdc
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by modelerdc »

I too love the sound of the 0AL, if the rim was larger I’d still be playing it
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Vegasbound
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by Vegasbound »

IMHO, have a Skype lesson with Doug Elliott, you would then have a better understanding of what is going on with your chops, how to make it work for you, and save you lots of money down the mouthpiece route!