What kind of music do cows like?
- tbdana
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I live in a very rural area, with lots of farms and ranches. A mile away is one called the Lazy Dog Ranch (LDR), and they have cows. I've seen various videos of trombone players playing for cows, and every day when I drive past those cows at LDR I think about bringing my horn and serenading them.
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My question is, what should I play for them? And what does a gig like this pay? :)
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My question is, what should I play for them? And what does a gig like this pay? :)
- imsevimse
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Lol<EMOJI seq="1f44d" tseq="1f44d">👍</EMOJI>Anything that sounds like a trombone. I've done it, they always come and they are a very greatful audience.
Scales, arpeggios and long tones, they love everything even bad playing.
/Tom
Scales, arpeggios and long tones, they love everything even bad playing.
/Tom
- tbdana
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[quote="imsevimse"]They love everything even bad playing.[/quote]
Perfect! :D
Perfect! :D
- Mr412
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They would gather and party, especially if wine was involved. Perhaps serve them a nice moo-low.
- MrHCinDE
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Anything but black coffee, that’s bad for business.
Perhaps any of the cheesy standards?
Perhaps any of the cheesy standards?
- Kingfan
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[quote="Mr412"]They would gather and party, especially if wine was involved. Perhaps serve them a nice moo-low.[/quote]
That's udderly ridiculous :-)
That's udderly ridiculous :-)
- tbdana
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Somehow I'm getting the feeling you folks aren't taking me seriously. I'm hoping to steer this back in the right direction. I have no beef with you, but I do have a steak in preventing this thread devolving into a bunch of bull.
- AndrewMeronek
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What about takes by other animals?
My family's dogs tend to howl and bark along when I play.
Cats hide or just ignore.
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My family's dogs tend to howl and bark along when I play.
Cats hide or just ignore.
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- harrisonreed
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[quote="tbdana"]Somehow I'm getting the feeling you folks aren't taking me seriously. I'm hoping to steer this back in the right direction. I have no beef with you, but I do have a steak in preventing this thread devolving into a bunch of bull.[/quote]
:biggrin: :good: :lol:
:biggrin: :good: :lol:
- Posaunus
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Holy cow! You folks are milking this for all it's worth. You may believe that these observations are legen-dairy, perhaps even udderly hilarious - but I'm not amoosed. Dana, I think it's pasture bedtime!
- Wilktone
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Anything in Beef Flat, that’s their most moosical key.
I teach elementary school students.
I teach elementary school students.
- AndrewMeronek
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A cow's favorite composer has to be Mooodest Mooossorgsky.
- Doug_Elliott
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They brought their horns, maybe they want to sit in.
Jersey Bounce
So Rare
Speak Low
Moo'd Indigo
Hornithology
Cow Cow Boogie
Jersey Bounce
So Rare
Speak Low
Moo'd Indigo
Hornithology
Cow Cow Boogie
- Posaunus
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Moossorgsky was from MosCOW. American cows' taste in moosic composers may be a little more esoteric (and domestic) - I think they'd moove to COWlifornia native Henry COWell.
Here in California we have earthquakes. What happens to the cows during these tremors? Milkshakes!
This is all udder nonsense!
Here in California we have earthquakes. What happens to the cows during these tremors? Milkshakes!
This is all udder nonsense!
- mayflowerwatson
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Only slightly related - my dog hates my trombone :( Maybe I should get a cow instead?
- AndrewMeronek
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[quote="Posaunus"]Moossorgsky was from MosCOW.[/quote]
I think you misspelled Moooscow.
I think you misspelled Moooscow.
- AndrewMeronek
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The scholarly study of cowbells is called Mooosicowlogy.
- Joebone
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[quote="AndrewMeronek"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="264459" time="1737094138" user_id="158">
Moossorgsky was from MosCOW.[/quote]
I think you misspelled Moooscow.
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Moose-cow? Been there, done that...
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Moossorgsky was from MosCOW.[/quote]
I think you misspelled Moooscow.
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Moose-cow? Been there, done that...
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- AndrewMeronek
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- ghmerrill
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I've never personally seen any evidence that cows (at least Angus cows) care about music at all. I'm skeptical of attributing much awareness to cows in general.
But there is a long-standing tradition of playing music for dairy cows at milking time, and a belief that this increases milk production (though if you think about that for a moment it doesn't seem to make sense -- the cows not actually producing milk during the milking, but only delivering it). I also suspect that you'd get the same result from dairy cows by playing Chicago Cubs baseball games for them (or games of any other team for that matter). Canadian cows may prefer hockey, but I'm being purely speculative about that.
However, not to overlook the possibility of rigorously acquired scientific evidence, there is this "studies have shown" article (don't you love those things?) that would appear to indicate -- if you don't dig too deeply into the methodology -- that cows do prefer certain music, and some indication that they rather like Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony and Simon & Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water. Based on this, the article (ever so scientific) then suggests that "fast country music" may be bad for cows and that "easy listening" music or "smooth jazz" might be good. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but cows are cows.
"Music to My Ears"
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But there is a long-standing tradition of playing music for dairy cows at milking time, and a belief that this increases milk production (though if you think about that for a moment it doesn't seem to make sense -- the cows not actually producing milk during the milking, but only delivering it). I also suspect that you'd get the same result from dairy cows by playing Chicago Cubs baseball games for them (or games of any other team for that matter). Canadian cows may prefer hockey, but I'm being purely speculative about that.
However, not to overlook the possibility of rigorously acquired scientific evidence, there is this "studies have shown" article (don't you love those things?) that would appear to indicate -- if you don't dig too deeply into the methodology -- that cows do prefer certain music, and some indication that they rather like Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony and Simon & Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water. Based on this, the article (ever so scientific) then suggests that "fast country music" may be bad for cows and that "easy listening" music or "smooth jazz" might be good. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but cows are cows.
"Music to My Ears"
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- Posaunus
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I'm tired of all this cattle music conversation.
Though I'm from a dairy family, part of my ancestry is Scottish - via New Zealand!
So I must ask - how do <B>sheep</B> react to music?
And please don't reply that this is a baad question to pose.
Though I'm from a dairy family, part of my ancestry is Scottish - via New Zealand!
So I must ask - how do <B>sheep</B> react to music?
And please don't reply that this is a baad question to pose.
- Joebone
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[quote="Posaunus"]I'm tired of all this cattle music conversation.
Though I'm from a dairy family, part of my ancestry is Scottish - via New Zealand!
So I must ask - how do <B>sheep</B> react to music?
And please don't reply that this is a baad question to pose.[/quote]
I could tell you the joke about the Rolling Stone, the Scotsman and the sheep, but this is a family chatroom.
Though I'm from a dairy family, part of my ancestry is Scottish - via New Zealand!
So I must ask - how do <B>sheep</B> react to music?
And please don't reply that this is a baad question to pose.[/quote]
I could tell you the joke about the Rolling Stone, the Scotsman and the sheep, but this is a family chatroom.
- BrassSection
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Never played for our Black Angus, maybe I’ll open a window in back of the house this summer and play out the window towards ours. Son used to play his baritone for our horses years ago, we had 2 Arab/Quarter mix horses at the time, they would stop with whoever was on them and listen. Scales, band music, whatever seemed fine with them!
Yes, we name our cows. Yes, we eat them. Usually with a fork.
Yes, we name our cows. Yes, we eat them. Usually with a fork.
- BGuttman
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[quote="BrassSection"]...
Yes, we name our cows. Yes, we eat them. Usually with a fork.[/quote]
I hope at least you cut them up first :tongue:
We were playing a concert band performance at the New Hampshire Veterans' Home. We were on a back patio facing a large field. Our conductor was facing us with her back to the field. Each tune we played, a number of cows collected at the fence watching (and probably listening). As soon as the tune stopped the cows disappeared. A lot of the band members thought this was humorous and started laughing. The conductor tried to find out what was happening, but always missed the cows.
Yes, we name our cows. Yes, we eat them. Usually with a fork.[/quote]
I hope at least you cut them up first :tongue:
We were playing a concert band performance at the New Hampshire Veterans' Home. We were on a back patio facing a large field. Our conductor was facing us with her back to the field. Each tune we played, a number of cows collected at the fence watching (and probably listening). As soon as the tune stopped the cows disappeared. A lot of the band members thought this was humorous and started laughing. The conductor tried to find out what was happening, but always missed the cows.
- dwcarder
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From
https://wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM2115
"The Ingenues, an all-girl band and vaudeville act, serenading the cows in the University of Wisconsin-Madison Dairy Barn in a scientific test of whether the cows would give more milk to the soothing strains of music. "
- ghmerrill
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[quote="dwcarder"]... in a scientific test ... "[/quote]
In the article: "The original caption indicates that the cows were too surprised at the unusual treat to react in the way expected."
Interesting description of a "scientific test". Not sure whether to interpret that as an observation, hypothesis, or conclusion. :lol:
My wife, a long-time horse lover (and we had horses for about 30 years) has been fond of saying "Horses have only two neurons -- one for food and one for sex." I'm pretty confident that cows have only the food neuron. The bulls have two. Of course, that's a fairly unscientific estimate based purely on my own observation -- though probably as reliable as the aforementioned "scientific test". :)
Okay, possibly it's a bit more complicated than that ... as anyone knows, who has ever come between a cow and her calf.
In the article: "The original caption indicates that the cows were too surprised at the unusual treat to react in the way expected."
Interesting description of a "scientific test". Not sure whether to interpret that as an observation, hypothesis, or conclusion. :lol:
My wife, a long-time horse lover (and we had horses for about 30 years) has been fond of saying "Horses have only two neurons -- one for food and one for sex." I'm pretty confident that cows have only the food neuron. The bulls have two. Of course, that's a fairly unscientific estimate based purely on my own observation -- though probably as reliable as the aforementioned "scientific test". :)
Okay, possibly it's a bit more complicated than that ... as anyone knows, who has ever come between a cow and her calf.
- Doug_Elliott
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[quote="ghmerrill"]who has ever come between a cow and her calf.[/quote]
Well there was a bull...
Well there was a bull...
- AndrewMeronek
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For those who might be interested:
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The music in that video isn't very good and needs more trombone.
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The music in that video isn't very good and needs more trombone.
- Posaunus
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[quote="dwcarder"]
"The Ingenues, an all-girl band and vaudeville act, serenading the cows in the University of Wisconsin-Madison Dairy Barn in a scientific test of whether the cows would give more milk to the soothing strains of music. "[/quote]
Gotta love the barn outfits - dresses and high heels! ;)

"The Ingenues, an all-girl band and vaudeville act, serenading the cows in the University of Wisconsin-Madison Dairy Barn in a scientific test of whether the cows would give more milk to the soothing strains of music. "[/quote]
Gotta love the barn outfits - dresses and high heels! ;)
- walldaja
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Cows don't care about what you play but they want you to play it grazioso.
- TomWest
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[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="dwcarder" post_id="265460" time="1738158559" user_id="16755">

"The Ingenues, an all-girl band and vaudeville act, serenading the cows in the University of Wisconsin-Madison Dairy Barn in a scientific test of whether the cows would give more milk to the soothing strains of music. "[/quote]
Gotta love the barn outfits - dresses and high heels! ;)
</QUOTE>
I don’t know what kind of music cows like but the woman playing the curved bell straight saxophone is playing what is now a valuable collectible instrument.

"The Ingenues, an all-girl band and vaudeville act, serenading the cows in the University of Wisconsin-Madison Dairy Barn in a scientific test of whether the cows would give more milk to the soothing strains of music. "[/quote]
Gotta love the barn outfits - dresses and high heels! ;)
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I don’t know what kind of music cows like but the woman playing the curved bell straight saxophone is playing what is now a valuable collectible instrument.
- Posaunus
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[quote="TomWest"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="265478" time="1738170076" user_id="158">
Gotta love the barn outfits - dresses and high heels! ;)[/quote]
I don’t know what kind of music cows like but the woman playing the curved bell straight saxophone is playing what is now a valuable collectible instrument.
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How about the right-hand valve horn - and the grip she's employing? Is that what in junior high school we used to call a "concert" mellophone (stepping stone to a "French" horn)?
Gotta love the barn outfits - dresses and high heels! ;)[/quote]
I don’t know what kind of music cows like but the woman playing the curved bell straight saxophone is playing what is now a valuable collectible instrument.
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How about the right-hand valve horn - and the grip she's employing? Is that what in junior high school we used to call a "concert" mellophone (stepping stone to a "French" horn)?
- JohnL
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[quote="Posaunus"]How about the right-hand valve horn - and the grip she's employing? Is that what in junior high school we used to call a "concert" mellophone (stepping stone to a "French" horn)?[/quote]
It's hard to tell from that image, but I think you're right. Mellophone/circular alto.
It's hard to tell from that image, but I think you're right. Mellophone/circular alto.
- AndrewMeronek
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In related news . . .
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- Jimkinkella
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Bluegrass?
- ghmerrill
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[quote="JohnL"]It's hard to tell from that image, but I think you're right. Mellophone/circular alto.[/quote]
Yes, it's hard to tell from the picture. I do wonder if it isn't just a regular French horn that she's holding backwards for the sake of the pose in the photo.
Yes, it's hard to tell from the picture. I do wonder if it isn't just a regular French horn that she's holding backwards for the sake of the pose in the photo.
- JohnL
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[quote="ghmerrill"]<QUOTE author="JohnL" post_id="265523" time="1738193015" user_id="119">
It's hard to tell from that image, but I think you're right. Mellophone/circular alto.[/quote]
Yes, it's hard to tell from the picture. I do wonder if it isn't just a regular French horn that she's holding backwards for the sake of the pose in the photo.</QUOTE>
What details I can make out are consistent with an angled valve mellophone like this Conn 4E
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn4E1930image.html
It's hard to tell from that image, but I think you're right. Mellophone/circular alto.[/quote]
Yes, it's hard to tell from the picture. I do wonder if it isn't just a regular French horn that she's holding backwards for the sake of the pose in the photo.</QUOTE>
What details I can make out are consistent with an angled valve mellophone like this Conn 4E
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn4E1930image.html
- Posaunus
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[quote="JohnL"]<QUOTE author="ghmerrill" post_id="265574" time="1738251248" user_id="2941">
Yes, it's hard to tell from the picture. I do wonder if it isn't just a regular French horn that she's holding backwards for the sake of the pose in the photo.[/quote]
What details I can make out are consistent with an angled valve mellophone like this Conn 4E
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn4E1930image.html
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Or perhaps an Olds circular mellophone from the 1950s? (Hard to tell whether these valves are angled.)
Yes, it's hard to tell from the picture. I do wonder if it isn't just a regular French horn that she's holding backwards for the sake of the pose in the photo.[/quote]
What details I can make out are consistent with an angled valve mellophone like this Conn 4E
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn4E1930image.html
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Or perhaps an Olds circular mellophone from the 1950s? (Hard to tell whether these valves are angled.)
- JohnL
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[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="JohnL" post_id="265582" time="1738256115" user_id="119">
What details I can make out are consistent with an angled valve mellophone like this Conn 4E
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn4E1930image.html[/quote]
Or perhaps an Olds circular mellophone from the 1950s? (Hard to tell whether these valves are angled.)
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The image was published in 1930, so it wouldn't be an Olds.
https://wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM2115
What details I can make out are consistent with an angled valve mellophone like this Conn 4E
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn4E1930image.html[/quote]
Or perhaps an Olds circular mellophone from the 1950s? (Hard to tell whether these valves are angled.)
</QUOTE>
The image was published in 1930, so it wouldn't be an Olds.
https://wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM2115
- Posaunus
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[quote="JohnL"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus" post_id="265589" time="1738258279" user_id="158">
Or perhaps an Olds circular mellophone from the 1950s? (Hard to tell whether these valves are angled.)[/quote]
The image was published in 1930, so it wouldn't be an Olds.
https://wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM2115
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Good detective work, John. :good:
Or perhaps an Olds circular mellophone from the 1950s? (Hard to tell whether these valves are angled.)[/quote]
The image was published in 1930, so it wouldn't be an Olds.
https://wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM2115
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Good detective work, John. :good:
- BrassSection
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[quote="BGuttman"][/quote] I hope at least you cut them up first :tongue:
Local butcher does that, after the cow has hung in the cooler for 3 weeks. Grass fed beef is tougher if you don’t let them age.
How do I like my steak? Right next to my other steak!
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Local butcher does that, after the cow has hung in the cooler for 3 weeks. Grass fed beef is tougher if you don’t let them age.
How do I like my steak? Right next to my other steak!
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- baBposaune
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Bull-ero.
- JohnL
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They even have music festivals like Cowachella and Stagecowch.
- ghmerrill
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For the more contemporary bovine audience, there's always "The Bum Steer."