Monster Oil Trombone Slide Cream

posaunebone · by **posaunebone** » 2019-02-09 10:07 a.m.

I just saw that they now offer what appears to be something similar to the Yamaha purple bottle stuff. Anyone tried this yet?

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Also, does anyone have any general opinions of their lineup over something like hetman or ultra pure?

jchiang9 · by **jchiang9** » 2019-02-09 12:58 p.m.

I use their line of valve oils for my euphonium. I like it! I find it builds up gunk a lot slower than hetmans. The tuning slide grease was a little thin for me. But I like think goopy stuff on my slides!

Haven't tried their slide cream though.

BHolleyBrass · by **BHolleyBrass** » 2019-02-13 1:55 p.m.

I've been hoping they'd make this stuff for years. My shop gets Hetman, UltraPure, and Yamaha stuff for free (through the store) for my repair shop to use, but I changed to Monster about six months ago for my XO euphonium and haven't looked back. It handily outlasts the other valve oils. I'd say it's worth a shot. So much that I'm ordering some now...

BHolleyBrass · by **BHolleyBrass** » 2019-02-18 11:20 a.m.

It's sort of like they mixed Trombotine and Yamaha (Yamasnot) together and put it in a valve oil bottle with a slightly larger aperture. So far, my Shires is liking it better than Trombotine, UltraPure, and Super Slick. The feel (after I figured out how much to use) is similar to the Yamaha. I'll update again if anything changes.

TheSheriff · by **TheSheriff** » 2019-02-18 12:21 p.m.

[quote="BHolleyBrass"]It's sort of like they mixed Trombotine and Yamaha (Yamasnot) together and put it in a valve oil bottle with a slightly larger aperture. So far, my Shires is liking it better than Trombotine, UltraPure, and Super Slick. The feel (after I figured out how much to use) is similar to the Yamaha. I'll update again if anything changes.[/quote]
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Thanks for the report.

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Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2019-02-18 12:58 p.m.

This stuff is apparently so new that it doesn't appear listed on the Monster Oil Website (http://www.MonsterOil.net). :idk: [Though it appears to be hidden, bundled in a "Trombone Care and Cleaning Kit"]

I guess if I want the slide cream separately, I'll have to buy from Amazon (I actually use Smile.Amazon.com, so that part of my purchase goes to my favorite charity) - I don't need the full kit!

But I did enjoy Monster Oil's "Usage and Tips" page:

http://www.monsteroil.net/usage-and-tips/

ghmerrill · by **ghmerrill** » 2019-02-18 2:28 p.m.

The instructions on the Monster Oil site say to apply it DAILY "along the inner slide -- then work the lube in by moving the slide up and down a few times". From my perspective there are a couple of things wrong with this. But in any event, at this point in time, and given how well the Superslick/Superslick Plus/spray bottle routine works for me (and I sure don't have to do anything DAILY except spray it now and then with the water/Hetman's Hydroslide mix), I'm inclined to pass on trying this. At least pending more reports.

(I did like the Yamaha slide lube, but the Superslick approach works a lot better for me and doesn't wash off like the Yamaha lube seemed to. Maybe the Monster Oil slide lube is more in the Yamaha tradition -- though I don't recall needing to apply it daily.)

Article7 · by **Article7** » 2019-02-24 2:30 p.m.

Never seen it on their store before but I was running low on lube and ordered a bottle

BGuttman · by **BGuttman** » 2019-02-24 2:33 p.m.

[quote="Article7"]Never seen it on their store before but I was running low on lube and ordered a bottle[/quote]

Please let us know how you like it (or don't).

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2019-02-24 5:41 p.m.

[quote="BGuttman"]Please let us know how you like it (or don't).[/quote]

I threw in a bottle of Monster Trombone Slide Cream Lubricant with my latest Smile.Amazon.com order yesterday ($7.95). When received, I'll try it on a few trombones (I have some older ones) and report. :idk:

SimmonsTrombone · by **SimmonsTrombone** » 2019-02-26 5:38 a.m.

I got mine and was surprised that there was no suggested usage either with the product or on the website. I sent an email and quickly got a reply - use a little with a light spray of water. I tried a pea sized drop on each stocking of my Elkhart 88h, worked it in with the outers and gave a light spray of water. Seemed to work just fine for the 30 minutes I was able to practice. We’ll see about longevity.

BflatBass · by **BflatBass** » 2019-02-26 11:21 p.m.

[quote="ghmerrill"]The instructions on the Monster Oil site say to apply it DAILY "along the inner slide -- then work the lube in by moving the slide up and down a few times". From my perspective there are a couple of things wrong with this. But in any event, at this point in time, and given how well the Superslick/Superslick Plus/spray bottle routine works for me (and I sure don't have to do anything DAILY except spray it now and then with the water/Hetman's Hydroslide mix), I'm inclined to pass on trying this. At least pending more reports.

(I did like the Yamaha slide lube, but the Superslick approach works a lot better for me and doesn't wash off like the Yamaha lube seemed to. Maybe the Monster Oil slide lube is more in the Yamaha tradition -- though I don't recall needing to apply it daily.)[/quote]

I use this method too. Always have. But of all the other trombone players in the 3 bands I'm in, I'm the only one with a water spray bottle at rehearsals and concerts. Back when I was playing when I was younger (early '80's), everyone had a water spray bottle.

I've also found that when I'm behind and the slide get's a little dry and I don't have time to clean and re-lube with cream, I can just run a couple of beads of Yamaha slide lube on each stocking and it goes from a 6 to a 10 and lasts a few days before I need to clean and re-lube with cream again. So I always keep the Yamaha lube in my case for emergencies.

Robert

ghmerrill · by **ghmerrill** » 2019-02-27 9:09 a.m.

Or you could take the approach of another guy I've played with: Basically never clean your horn or slide or mouthpiece. At every rehearsal or performance, apply Slide-O-Mix to the slide. Then you're done. He's also in his 80s, and I suspect that this technique is just a kind of transference from using slide oil in the days of his youth to now using Slide-O-Mix. In the past two years I've seen him clean his mouthpiece once -- which is easy to notice because it removes the black coating of coffee from the inside of the bowl.

There is definitely a range of approaches to slide lubrication. :?

Mikebmiller · by **Mikebmiller** » 2019-04-04 8:38 p.m.

I got a bottle of this to try after reading this thread and I find it to be a bit thicker than Yamaha or SOM Rapid Comfort. I prefer either of those to this. Just too thick for my taste.

mrdeacon · by **mrdeacon** » 2019-04-05 12:16 a.m.

[quote="Mikebmiller"]I got a bottle of this to try after reading this thread and I find it to be a bit thicker than Yamaha or SOM Rapid Comfort. I prefer either of those to this. Just too thick for my taste.[/quote]
For the uninformed... is it a cream like trombotine or is it a gloop like the Yamaha snot?

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