Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help

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BassboneJ25
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by BassboneJ25 »

I play an Edwards B502i with a single bore.562 slide and SS B3 leadpipe. I’m a pretty advanced player that has received their terminal degree in trombone performance. I am currently playing on a Hammond 21BXL and a Laskey 90D. For me, the Hammond is a very orchestral dark sound that can carry the weight of an orchestral section on heavier germanic/romantic repertoire, and the laskey is a brighter sound that can carry more of the early classical and jazz band sound and sections. I am currently looking for a mouthpiece that I can use with soloing. So the hammond, for me, is too dark and in the upper register loses some of overtone color to help project, a wide wall of sound. The laskey is great, but whenever I give it any more power, the sound breaks up really soon, a laser of sound. I am looking for something in between those two styles. Any suggestions would be helpful!
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

Markey 90
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jjenkins
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by jjenkins » (edited 2025-02-25 9:54 p.m.)

Doug Elliott LB114/K/K8 or a Griego-Markey 90 or Greg Black NY 1GS
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LIBrassCo
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by LIBrassCo »

Pollard Aria 900 with a Pollard shank

https://www.librassco.com/pollard-signature-series
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tbonesullivan
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by tbonesullivan »

[quote="Burgerbob"]Markey 90[/quote] Seconded. The Markey series are just great mouthpieces. I keep wanting to get a 90 myself to see if a mouthpiece of that size will actually work for me. I tried a Doug Yeo and a Ferguson LS, but they are just too big and I didn't like the feel.
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BassboneJ25
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by BassboneJ25 »

any thoughts on Giddings?
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

[quote="BassboneJ25"]any thoughts on Giddings?[/quote]

I'll just go ahead and say no
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BassboneJ25
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by BassboneJ25 » (edited 2025-02-26 3:52 p.m.)

[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="BassboneJ25" post_id="268301" time="1740591503" user_id="8531">
any thoughts on Giddings?[/quote]

I'll just go ahead and say no
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Heard, I have tried and bought a lot of mouthpieces over the years and because I had no job this summer had to sell my whole stock. I'm asking for others thoughts on mouthpieces of this size, since I moved to a slightly bigger rim diameter, because I'm not trying to spend a lot of money dialing stuff in... I should go to a conference/show, but I am not able to this spring/summer. So I am limited to what music stores have around me.
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bassbone1993
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by bassbone1993 »

[quote="BassboneJ25"]any thoughts on Giddings?[/quote]

I found them to be quite stale sounding. I've had 3-4 of their bass pieces, and they don't feel great or sound great in my opinion. If you REALLY wanted to look into a steel piece, I'd look at AR Resonance
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

It sounds like a gamble, but I'd just get a Markey 90. Used if you can. It might just replace your other two pieces entirely
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Doug_Elliott
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by Doug_Elliott »

You're always welcome to audition my stuff and return if you don't like it.
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BigBadandBass
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by BigBadandBass »

There’s a reason steel hasn’t caught on and become major mainstream. I third a Markey, it’s the Toyota Corolla of bass pieces at this point, sans the price tag
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WGWTR180
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by WGWTR180 »

I realize I'll get multiple opinions on this but here goes. Markey 90 size wise is close to what? Markey 87 size wise is close to??
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

[quote="WGWTR180"]I realize I'll get multiple opinions on this but here goes. Markey 90 size wise is close to what? Markey 87 size wise is close to??[/quote]

90 is Greg black 1G sized (29mm), 87 is Greg black 1 1/8G sized (bit smaller).

Markey uses the 87 for most playing.
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WGWTR180
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by WGWTR180 »

[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="WGWTR180" post_id="268731" time="1740929557" user_id="7573">
I realize I'll get multiple opinions on this but here goes. Markey 90 size wise is close to what? Markey 87 size wise is close to??[/quote]

90 is Greg black 1G sized (29mm), 87 is Greg black 1 1/8G sized (bit smaller).

Markey uses the 87 for most playing.
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Thanks. Read the specs but this is helpful
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GabrielRice
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by GabrielRice »

But the Markeys are quite a bit more efficient than the Blacks - I think there's a little less cup volume and certainly a smaller throat.

To go back to older models...

93/95 are kind of like the corresponding Laskeys

90 is in the Schilke 60 neighborhood

87 is between 60 and 59

85 is in the Schilke 59 neighborhood
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

Yup, I'm speaking only to the rim sizes.