Ambiguous 8va in Outdoor Overture

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AtomicClock
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by AtomicClock »

In Copland's Outdoor Overture, the trombone 1 part occasionally is written 8va. In this instance (bar 239):

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the 8va is written over fifth-line A. But according to the score, the part is not octave-shifted until a beat later:

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Do we read 8va as indicating the note underneath, or the note(s) to the right? Or is this just sloppy typesetting?
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AtomicClock
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by AtomicClock »

It's correct in the 2nd part:

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robcat2075
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by robcat2075 »

As a general rule, the score is always right... until it isn't.