Most focused bass trombone lead pipes

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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

I’m currently considering using a NY Bach 50 slide as my main slide with my 42, but want to test a bunch of lead pipes before making that decision. I currently have a BrassArk MV50 on the way. Are there are other focused/tight bass bone lead pipes that would be similar to the MV50? (Note I’m a tenor trombonist) thanks
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

Edwards or shires 1. Mv50 is pretty tight.
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JMudge
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by JMudge »

MK Drawing also has a pipe based on a MV 50. That could be an option to compare.

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BPBasso
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by BPBasso »

[quote="Burgerbob"]Edwards or shires 1. Mv50 is pretty tight.[/quote]

The Edwards B1L is even "more" focused than the B1.
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

[quote="JMudge"]MK Drawing also has a pipe based on a MV 50. That could be an option to compare.

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The average mv pipe is not tight. The brassark is.
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BassBoneFL
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by BassBoneFL »

You would be hard pressed to find a tighter bass pipe than the MV50 from Brass Ark. The M/K version is noticeably more open. FWIW, I have on good authority that a noted instrument maker measured the venturi of the BA pipe and found it to be smaller than some of his tenor pipes.
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blast
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by blast »

If you want REALLY focused, try to find a King duo gravis pipe. I think that's what I have...ex Phil Teele...king for sure...uber focused.
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ghmerrill
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by ghmerrill »

I have both Brass Ark MV50 (drawn red brass) and MK50 lead pipes (both nickel and brass). They have been great for me. I don't notice the M/K being more open. But I have found it necessary to shorten each of these by about 1/2" or so to get the results I want. Probably that's just me. On my cheesy Schiller 7B clone (red brass bell), the Brass Ark MV50 worked great for concert band, but the nickel M/K 50 worked best for big band. However, on my Getzen (yellow brass bell), the brass M/K 50 seems to be best. You need to experiment. M/K does, at least, have a trial and return policy.
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BrianJohnston
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by BrianJohnston »

[quote="BassBoneFL"]You would be hard pressed to find a tighter bass pipe than the MV50 from Brass Ark. The M/K version is noticeably more open. FWIW, I have on good authority that a noted instrument maker measured the venturi of the BA pipe and found it to be smaller than some of his tenor pipes.[/quote]

Hopefully they were comparing T3 sized pipes to the MV50 and not more average sized tenor pipes
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JMudge
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by JMudge »

[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="JMudge" post_id="278481" time="1749785480" user_id="7002">
MK Drawing also has a pipe based on a MV 50. That could be an option to compare.

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The average mv pipe is not tight. The brassark is.
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Thanks for that info. I wasn’t aware.
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Tbarh
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by Tbarh »

When I use a Conn 562 slide on my tenor I found the GR 2 leadpipe to give enough resistance to make the sound more "tenory".. Don't know if it is the tightest, but I am sure it is up there! <EMOJI seq="1f609" tseq="1f609">😉</EMOJI>