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DanZ
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by DanZ »

HI all,

I recently came across a couple of trombones in a school that that seem to have the model number M1, I assume they are sone sort of student level instrument, but I’m just wondering if anyone knows how they fit in with the more common 154 or 354 models?

Daniel
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ithinknot
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by ithinknot »

It's just what the 354 or 200AD have engraved on the slide, all the same
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davdud101
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by davdud101 »

Just to lock that in, yes: 354 == 200AD == M1.

[url=https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?t=8563]Here's what another user PaulT says about the 200AD:
[quote="PaulT"]They are the same horn.

Yamaha markets the 200 solely to its "Brick and Mortar" stores to give them something they don't have to go head to head against high volume online dealers with. (which I think is a pretty darn decent, and big picture wise, of them).

The 200 reputedly comes with a little nicer case. And if you get it new from a dealer, you will most likely get a year or two of free service work.

But as for the horn itself, whether it is called the 200 or 354, it is the exact same horn.[/quote]
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DanZ
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by DanZ »

Thanks for that, I had never heard of or seen an M1 before, though I am interested in a reasonable straight tenor in addition to my Yamaha 646.

Danz
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

I should point out that the M1 had a problem with the chrome plate on the inner slide. Not all had the problem, but just make sure yours doesn't. If there are blisters in the chrome plate or jagged edged holes, skip that instance.
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Blabberbucket
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by Blabberbucket »

[quote="BGuttman"]I should point out that the M1 had a problem with the chrome plate on the inner slide. Not all had the problem, but just make sure yours doesn't. If there are blisters in the chrome plate or jagged edged holes, skip that instance.[/quote]

I am not really aware of the M1 designation, so forgive that oversight... I have rarely seen 354 or 200AD instruments with issues like that on the inner tubes, but pretty much every 352 I've seen has had rotted out inners. Do with this information what you will.
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

The 352 was also called M1