Better than the P.E.T.E?

BrianJohnston · by **BrianJohnston** » 2025-08-06 2:07 p.m.

Is there something better than the P.E.T.E. for embouchure training/building muscle?

I’ve had mine for around 10-15 years now, and it no longer burns or feels like I’m building my embouchure anymore. Is there something that’s better or next level? Thanks.

AtomicClock · by **AtomicClock** » 2025-08-06 2:26 p.m.

I don't know if it's better... but it's heavier!

http://www.liemartech.com/Chop-Sticks/index.htm

WGWTR180 · by **WGWTR180** » 2025-08-06 5:48 p.m.

Get a Portex Incentive Spirometer. The best thing ever!

Doldom · by **Doldom** » 2025-09-04 5:35 a.m.

Maybe CTS(compression training system) ?

AtomicClock · by **AtomicClock** » 2026-01-22 1:40 p.m.

I just stumbled across this contraption. It looks like a PETE without the disc, but still uses the pulling exercise. So I guess you have to clamp down hard.

See the third video for "U-trainer point": https://u-trainer.info/en/

BrianJohnston · by **BrianJohnston** » 2026-01-23 12:25 a.m.

[quote="AtomicClock"]I just stumbled across this contraption. It looks like a PETE without the disc, but still uses the pulling exercise. So I guess you have to clamp down hard.

See the third video for "U-trainer point": https://u-trainer.info/en/[/quote]

This is exactly what I was hoping to find. Thanks!

AtomicClock · by **AtomicClock** » 2026-01-23 2:27 a.m.

[quote="BrianJohnston"]I’ve had mine for around 10-15 years now[/quote]

Around 11 years ago the P.E.T.E. Pro came out. Maybe you missed it?

Doug_Elliott · by **Doug_Elliott** » 2026-01-23 11:25 a.m.

"Clamping down hard" is not a beneficial exercise... if anything, it's what you shouldn't do.

UrbanaDave · by **UrbanaDave** » 2026-01-23 11:34 a.m.

Doug, I would love to hear your thoughts on the U trainer gadget linked above. Here’s a shot from the YouTube video. It looks like it focuses on your corners.

Doug_Elliott · by **Doug_Elliott** » 2026-01-23 5:35 p.m.

I'll give that one a very big maybe.

Resistance strength training in a direction you don't need strength.

Building tbe wrong kind of strength or in the wrong direction is counterproductive.

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