Lynn Nicholson/Maynard Ferguson Protocol
- MStarke
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Out of curiosity - came across some of his YT videos - I purchased Lynn Nicholson's "Maynard Ferguson Protocol".
Obviously it's directed primarily towards (lead/scream?) trumpet players, but I thought why not look into it?
Who else has looked into it? What do you think? How much use is it for trombone?
My current/first impression is that it is not really revolutionary or rocket science - and it's probably important to say that it does NOT intent to change all your playing, but from my understanding to fine-tune mostly the approach to high notes.
My first impression is also that at least for me it might give some good hints and emphasis on making the very high register easier.
It's not a magic bullet, but interesting enough for me to try it.
Obviously it's directed primarily towards (lead/scream?) trumpet players, but I thought why not look into it?
Who else has looked into it? What do you think? How much use is it for trombone?
My current/first impression is that it is not really revolutionary or rocket science - and it's probably important to say that it does NOT intent to change all your playing, but from my understanding to fine-tune mostly the approach to high notes.
My first impression is also that at least for me it might give some good hints and emphasis on making the very high register easier.
It's not a magic bullet, but interesting enough for me to try it.
- Richard3rd
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- Joined: Dec 12, 2020
Playing trumpet makes playing larger brass easier. When I went from trumpet to euphonium/trombone and then to tuba, my range was never a problem. Nor was endurance.
I'm not familiar with the MF protocol though I've watched a bunch of LN videos.
I'm not familiar with the MF protocol though I've watched a bunch of LN videos.
- MStarke
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- Joined: Jan 01, 2019
As expected not much interest here in a method promoted by a lead trumpeter mostly directed at lead trumpeters...
I have in the last +-2 weeks experimented with some of the ideas.
Actually this is not revolutionary to how I play, but it's nice to have some additional input and ideas.
And I feel simply doing some of it or paying attention to it may have given me just a little bit more security in the extreme high register.
Which will probably help me with some extreme playing I do at the coming weekend.
I have in the last +-2 weeks experimented with some of the ideas.
Actually this is not revolutionary to how I play, but it's nice to have some additional input and ideas.
And I feel simply doing some of it or paying attention to it may have given me just a little bit more security in the extreme high register.
Which will probably help me with some extreme playing I do at the coming weekend.
- MStarke
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- Joined: Jan 01, 2019
[quote="Richard3rd"]Playing trumpet makes playing larger brass easier. When I went from trumpet to euphonium/trombone and then to tuba, my range was never a problem. Nor was endurance.
I'm not familiar with the MF protocol though I've watched a bunch of LN videos.[/quote]
I bought a cornet just out of curiosity a year ago and I can kind of confirm that getting a bit used to playing these small mouthpieces can help getting a better focus and control on trombone.
I'm not familiar with the MF protocol though I've watched a bunch of LN videos.[/quote]
I bought a cornet just out of curiosity a year ago and I can kind of confirm that getting a bit used to playing these small mouthpieces can help getting a better focus and control on trombone.
- Windmill
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- Joined: Feb 14, 2021
I did check the famous protocol... :)
I learned a lot from Maynard's old clinics he used to give in schools, that you can find now on YouTube. Especially about how to work on your mindset regarding high register etc... But I have to say that the part of the protocol concerning the rim-buzzing just isn't for me. I always hated to hear about mouthpiece buzzing and always consider the instrument and its mouthpiece like a whole unsplittable thing.
But lots of nice input in this ;)
I learned a lot from Maynard's old clinics he used to give in schools, that you can find now on YouTube. Especially about how to work on your mindset regarding high register etc... But I have to say that the part of the protocol concerning the rim-buzzing just isn't for me. I always hated to hear about mouthpiece buzzing and always consider the instrument and its mouthpiece like a whole unsplittable thing.
But lots of nice input in this ;)
- Doubler
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- Joined: Jan 07, 2019
FWIW - As has been mentioned above, playing the trumpet improved embouchure control while playing trombone. It also improved endurance on trombone. Years ago I played a lot more than I do now, and when my trumpet chops would get tired, I'd switch to trombone until those chops got tired, after which I'd put down the trombone and pick up the flute, for which my desire to play always diminished before I felt any tiring of my flute embouchure. I think that if you can play a brass instrument decently enough, playing flute should be a piece of cake, since it feels a lot less demanding, and you already have the ability needed for precise embouchure adjustments, awkward arm positions and proper fingering notwithstanding.
Interestingly enough, playing trombone also improved my trumpet playing, in that it helped a little with getting a richer, fuller tone, and it also distinctly improved my breathing and endurance on trumpet. My father-in-law, of blessed memory, also played both instruments at a high level and experienced the same effects. As always, YMMV.
Interestingly enough, playing trombone also improved my trumpet playing, in that it helped a little with getting a richer, fuller tone, and it also distinctly improved my breathing and endurance on trumpet. My father-in-law, of blessed memory, also played both instruments at a high level and experienced the same effects. As always, YMMV.