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Savio
Posts: 688
Joined: Apr 26, 2018

by Savio »

First of all, we have a great environment here, with people who are polite and helpful. Regardless of age and level. I recently joined two groups on Facebook. One with a camper and one with what to have for dinner. Never seen so many internet trolls in my life. I can hardly believe it, but if you ask a beginner question you get so many sarcastic answers back. I'm starting to think that we trombonists are a little cooler than others? Anyway, I'll have a soup with cabbage, potatoes and sausage tomorrow. And then some long notes, flexibility and a nice melody. Maybe a little double tongue which I'm really bad at. And high notes. And playing pp. I'm in a musical these days and was told that I'm playing too strong. And the conductor of course took the story about Strauss who said never look at the trombonists. In front of both the orchestra and the singers. Needless to say but I turned down all the dynamics of course.

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SteveM
Posts: 88
Joined: Dec 21, 2021

by SteveM »

Leif, ever since the days of the old Trombone Forum, you have been one of the main people who helped to create such a "polite and helpful" culture on these forums. Thank you!
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BGuttman
Posts: 7368
Joined: Mar 22, 2018

by BGuttman »

It hasn't been all roses.

I've kicked out several members for violating our Terms of Use by being bullies, trolls (which are actually bullies), instigators, thread hijackers, and other bad actors. And some of these people were actually good players!

We (the Staff) try to keep a friendly and useful place. Thank you all for helping us.
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harrisonreed
Posts: 6479
Joined: Aug 17, 2018

by harrisonreed »

Remember that one guy with the "trombone channel" YouTube videos? Trollllll
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robcat2075
Posts: 1867
Joined: Sep 03, 2018

by robcat2075 »

Many Facebook groups aren't well-moderated. If they have many members posting, the moderator can become overwhelmed and give up.

I'm not quite sure how monetization works for Facebook Groups but on social media in general, more interaction is worth more than less interaction so posts and comments have value even if by trolls.
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Matt_K
Posts: 4809
Joined: Mar 21, 2018

by Matt_K »

[quote="harrisonreed"]Remember that one guy with the "trombone channel" YouTube videos? Trollllll[/quote]

I've tried to repress that particular memory :shuffle:
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Digidog
Posts: 483
Joined: Dec 13, 2018

by Digidog »

I lost my patience with FB long ago, both from its pathological theft of anything media posted, its shamless data mining, and the over all lack of integrity for its users. Let alone all the equally pathological lying and mythbuilding people were engaging in; both personal, common and societal.

For a long time my account was dormant, since I never found anything useful from it, but two years ago I suddenly remembered I still had my account, and ordered it to be completely deleted in accordance with European laws of the rights to be taken off any such digital platform.

Zuckerberg is an opportunist with very doubtable ethics, and a profiteer on other's industry and lives as well as on lies and disinformation, and since his submitting to orange man I won't condone anything he does or stands for. :evil:
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robcat2075
Posts: 1867
Joined: Sep 03, 2018

by robcat2075 »

Remember that one guy with the "trombone channel" YouTube videos?


I was looking for one of his threads the other day and couldn't find anything. Has all his content been deleted or am I not remembering his forum name?

Regarding FB groups, I gave up on the "Bass Trombone" group because post after post after post was just a picture of the music on someone's stand with a comment like "Tonight at the office, LOL!"

But how many people were in that group do you think? 100? 1000?

No... 10,000+! Are there even 10,000 physical bass trombones in the world?

Other groups I have enjoyed seeing come up in my feed... Jack Benny Fan Club, Cartoon Research, Miniatures in Movies... most of the posts in those have been worth reading.

A very surprising group has been "2001 - A Space Odyssey". 50+ years later, people still have interesting things to unearth and comment about that movie.
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MStarke
Posts: 1031
Joined: Jan 01, 2019

by MStarke »

I find the DWerden euphonium forum quite good. Relatively polite and always helpful threads, well moderated. Technically it's old school and really slow for me.

It's mostly euphonium, so to a degree the topics are (even) more repetitive than here reg brands, music and players.
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robcat2075
Posts: 1867
Joined: Sep 03, 2018

by robcat2075 »

Hey, I just got $37.34 in my PayPal account from Facebook... my portion of the settlement of a class action lawsuit regarding their undisclosed abuse of user's personal info and privacy.

Take that, Facebook! They'll think twice before they sell my data to another unscrupulous commercial entity without having first made some pro forma gesture of notification and transparency!

And then they'll sell it.
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JTeagarden
Posts: 625
Joined: Feb 24, 2025

by JTeagarden »

I think part of what helps this group is 1) the number of bona fide actual experts on this site, the Doug Elliots, Matthew Walkers, Eric Edwards and Chris Stearns who remind us all that there is A LOT we don't know...

The other thing to me is that, while we have lots of hobbyists among us, trombone is not something you really dabble in in the way you might dabble in cooking, fishing, etc.; it requires a lot of work over many years just not to sound absolutely atrocious on the trombone, and there's pretty hard evidence for most of us who are neither hard of hearing nor delusional as to how good we actually are, and the long line of trombonists ahead of us: the best ones worked their asses off at some stage to get that way, so appreciating the difference between your aspirations and your abilities helps keep most of us reasonably grounded in reality.

The role trombones play in most ensembles also reinforces the "team player" mentality: we are the offensive linemen of the music world most of the time, with the occasional fumble recovery and pick 6.