Bass Trombone Hand Grip
- bbux007
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I’m looking for recommendations for a good hand grip or support for bass trombone. I’ve seen a few options like the Edwards Bullet Brace and Neotec Grip, but I’m not sure what works best for comfort and balance during long rehearsals and what would fit on my Mack 831
- GabrielRice
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I use the Leather Specialties strap - simple, relatively inexpensive, and most effective for me.
I'm concerned about how it will work with that ring on the slide though.
I'm concerned about how it will work with that ring on the slide though.
- ghmerrill
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I've used a Bullet Brace on a similar horn. An Axe handle would do as well. But each may require a little trial & error time for you to adjust it just right for you. You may also benefit from a counter weight. Hickey's has a generic one: https://www.hickeys.com/search/products/sku079240.php. You may also want to look at a Wise Grip. I just got one and it makes more difference in comfort than I thought it would. (I'd also take that ring off your horn -- which I did to my 7B clone. It's pretty useless.).
- sacfxdx
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I use the neotech on my XO 1240. Takes some adjustment to make it fit the way you want it. When you snap off the grip part it still fits in my case. I tried the bullet brace. It would not fit in case then. Neotech is cheap enough to give it a try.
- tbdana
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I use the Neotech on my Greenhoe Bach 50, which looks a lot like your setup. I love it. Once you get it adjusted to your horn and hand, you can just forget about it.
- thatme
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Similar question but different horn - recommendations for a Yamaha Xeno bass? Have weird pain in my hand when I play for over about 45 minutes and would like to try a grip of some type to see if it goes away.
- Tooloud
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Neotech is putting the weight of a bass trombone too far away from the hand to be comfortable when really using the triggers.
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.
- thatme
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[quote="Tooloud"]Neotech is putting the weight of a bass trombone too far away from the hand to be comfortable when really using the triggers.
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.[/quote]
Are you thinking of something like this?
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.rathtrombones.com/products/ ... FSlv1yCSAG">https://www.rathtrombones.com/products/hand-support-trombone-part?srsltid=AfmBOop1mmWexpOuANgMdUm0gNjDU8Ydwz_w43fV6qe4P0FSlv1yCSAG</LINK_TEXT>
I use an item, where the instrument rests on the back of the hand. But I don't see these things outside Germany, where they are quite common with Thein, Lätzsch, Throja and so on.[/quote]
Are you thinking of something like this?
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.rathtrombones.com/products/ ... FSlv1yCSAG">https://www.rathtrombones.com/products/hand-support-trombone-part?srsltid=AfmBOop1mmWexpOuANgMdUm0gNjDU8Ydwz_w43fV6qe4P0FSlv1yCSAG</LINK_TEXT>
- Ihcramed
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- Posaunus
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[quote="Ihcramed"]Bonsoir
https://www.renehagmann.ch/accessoires/
at the bottom of the page[/quote]
For those who view the Hagmann page translated into English, it is helpful to know that the French word for "paperclip" is trombone. So the robotic translation to English of the French word trombone magically becomes paperclip. [Otherwise the translation is pretty good.]
https://www.renehagmann.ch/accessoires/
at the bottom of the page[/quote]
For those who view the Hagmann page translated into English, it is helpful to know that the French word for "paperclip" is trombone. So the robotic translation to English of the French word trombone magically becomes paperclip. [Otherwise the translation is pretty good.]
- ghmerrill
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Just curious what translator you're using that produces this. I can't seem to get Google Translate to make that move in any kind of reasonable context, and it appears to translate that page correctly. If you give it the single word 'trombone', it lists 'trombone' as the first translation and 'paperclip' as a second possibility. But it seems to translate the entire page correctly.
- AtomicClock
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Firefox's built-in translator (which I always thought was just Google) gives 'paperclip'. And doesn't attempt the solfege pitches.
Our exclusive RM 09 hand rest is adaptable to all paperclips, from tenor to low paperclip. Introduced more than 30 years ago, its success is still confirmed. Its quality is enough for its promotion. Holding your instrument becomes very pleasant and effortless. Our hand rest eliminates much of the tension and tension usually required to operate Fa and/or Re levers.
- Posaunus
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[quote="ghmerrill"]Just curious what translator you're using that produces this. I can't seem to get Google Translate to make that move in any kind of reasonable context, and it appears to translate that page correctly. If you give it the single word 'trombone', it lists 'trombone' as the first translation and 'paperclip' as a second possibility. But it seems to translate the entire page correctly.[/quote]
When I clicked on the Hagmann website, I was offered a popup option to translate the page from French to English.
This was labeled as a "Beta" version - don't know whether it came from Hagmann or my [Firefox] browser.
I used that (not Google Translate, which is apparently more sophisticated) and was amused to see trombones referred to as paperclips.
I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip. :shuffle:
When I clicked on the Hagmann website, I was offered a popup option to translate the page from French to English.
This was labeled as a "Beta" version - don't know whether it came from Hagmann or my [Firefox] browser.
I used that (not Google Translate, which is apparently more sophisticated) and was amused to see trombones referred to as paperclips.
I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip. :shuffle:
- ghmerrill
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[quote="AtomicClock"]Firefox's built-in translator (which I always thought was just Google) gives 'paperclip'.[/quote]
Ah, that would explain it. I'm primarily a Chrome user.
[quote="Posaunus"]When I clicked on the Hagmann website, I was offered a popup option to translate the page from French to English.
This was labeled as a "Beta" version - don't know whether it came from Hagmann or my [Firefox] browser.[/quote]
Looks like it came from your browser. I had expected to see such a translation option on the page, but I didn't (and don't).
[quote="Posaunus"]I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip. :shuffle:[/quote]
That would be great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it. I wonder what the etymology is in French, but haven't looked that up yet.
Ah, that would explain it. I'm primarily a Chrome user.
[quote="Posaunus"]When I clicked on the Hagmann website, I was offered a popup option to translate the page from French to English.
This was labeled as a "Beta" version - don't know whether it came from Hagmann or my [Firefox] browser.[/quote]
Looks like it came from your browser. I had expected to see such a translation option on the page, but I didn't (and don't).
[quote="Posaunus"]I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip. :shuffle:[/quote]
That would be great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it. I wonder what the etymology is in French, but haven't looked that up yet.
- AtomicClock
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[quote="ghmerrill"]great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it.[/quote]
This is often the recipe for a good joke. Just make sure that the people who don't get it don't realize they're missing something.
This is often the recipe for a good joke. Just make sure that the people who don't get it don't realize they're missing something.
- Posaunus
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[quote="ghmerrill"]<QUOTE author="Posaunus">
I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip. :shuffle:[/quote]
That would be great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it. I wonder what the etymology is in French, but haven't looked that up yet.
</QUOTE>
Look at the shape of a typical American paperclip. Note the (rough) resemblance to a trombone.
This is a French "visual onomatapoeia" (I can't find a real word for that - perhaps I should coin a term.) :roll:
I'm now considering whether to change my Username to Paperclip. :shuffle:[/quote]
That would be great -- but probably too subtle for many to get it. I wonder what the etymology is in French, but haven't looked that up yet.
</QUOTE>
Look at the shape of a typical American paperclip. Note the (rough) resemblance to a trombone.
This is a French "visual onomatapoeia" (I can't find a real word for that - perhaps I should coin a term.) :roll:
- ghmerrill
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[quote="Posaunus"]Look at the shape of a typical American paperclip. Note the (rough) resemblance to a trombone.
This is a French "visual onomatapoeia" (I can't find a real word for that - perhaps I should coin a term.) :roll:[/quote]
Okay, you made me look it up ...
It appears that the term 'trombone' precedes the invention of the paper clip. I had been thinking that the trombone was called that because of its similarity to the paper clip. But apparently the paper clip is called that because of its similarity to the trombone. :lol:
'Trombone' was derived from the Italian for 'big trumpet' (a combination of 'tromba' -- trumpet, and 'one' -- large). These usages precede the existence of paperclips.
This is a French "visual onomatapoeia" (I can't find a real word for that - perhaps I should coin a term.) :roll:[/quote]
Okay, you made me look it up ...
It appears that the term 'trombone' precedes the invention of the paper clip. I had been thinking that the trombone was called that because of its similarity to the paper clip. But apparently the paper clip is called that because of its similarity to the trombone. :lol:
'Trombone' was derived from the Italian for 'big trumpet' (a combination of 'tromba' -- trumpet, and 'one' -- large). These usages precede the existence of paperclips.