FS: Custom Screw bell Elkhart Conn 62h with 1st gen Thayers
- jchiang9
- Posts: 160
- Joined: Apr 07, 2018
Hi all,
Highly customized horn for sale. Love the sound and I was really hoping I could get used to the Thayers. Unfortunately, they just don't work as well for me.
This horn plays really well in the valve and sounds like a Conn on steroids. It has 1st Gen Thayer valves (independent) and a screw bell. The valves seal and play great! The j bend is in great shape and the screw ring works well.
Slide is original and I would rate it a solid 9/10. No wear on the stockings. The tuning in slide mechanism works well. Missing some of the original nuts but there are replacement nuts that work and look fine.
Included is a flight case. Heavy duty plywood flight case with metal hardware. It was shipped to me like this and got to me without any issues. The foam on the inside is a little grungy but the case does the job. If you play super sharp, you'll probably have to push the slide back in a bit to fit properly.
$3500 + shipping.
Now $3200 shipped!
Pictures:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/K61gWyDafNz1yj4HA
Highly customized horn for sale. Love the sound and I was really hoping I could get used to the Thayers. Unfortunately, they just don't work as well for me.
This horn plays really well in the valve and sounds like a Conn on steroids. It has 1st Gen Thayer valves (independent) and a screw bell. The valves seal and play great! The j bend is in great shape and the screw ring works well.
Slide is original and I would rate it a solid 9/10. No wear on the stockings. The tuning in slide mechanism works well. Missing some of the original nuts but there are replacement nuts that work and look fine.
Included is a flight case. Heavy duty plywood flight case with metal hardware. It was shipped to me like this and got to me without any issues. The foam on the inside is a little grungy but the case does the job. If you play super sharp, you'll probably have to push the slide back in a bit to fit properly.
$3500 + shipping.
Now $3200 shipped!
Pictures:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/K61gWyDafNz1yj4HA
- mrdeacon
- Posts: 1225
- Joined: May 08, 2018
Wow! I don't even know how to respond! Looks fantastic. Whoever did the work did a great job.
- Burgerbob
- Posts: 6327
- Joined: Apr 23, 2018
[quote="gdoug"]Cool horn! Is all of the rust cosmetic?[/quote]
Well, seeing as the only rust-possible metals are stainless steel, there isn't any! It's just raw brass.
Well, seeing as the only rust-possible metals are stainless steel, there isn't any! It's just raw brass.
- BGuttman
- Posts: 7368
- Joined: Mar 22, 2018
[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="gdoug" post_id="83356" time="1555910824" user_id="6061">
Cool horn! Is all of the rust cosmetic?[/quote]
Well, seeing as the only rust-possible metals are stainless steel, there isn't any! It's just raw brass.
</QUOTE>
Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.
So a steel horn would rust, but not stainless, nickel, silver, brass, bronze, copper, etc. Sometimes the oxides of copper can look red brown and can be confused for rust, though.
Cool horn! Is all of the rust cosmetic?[/quote]
Well, seeing as the only rust-possible metals are stainless steel, there isn't any! It's just raw brass.
</QUOTE>
Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.
So a steel horn would rust, but not stainless, nickel, silver, brass, bronze, copper, etc. Sometimes the oxides of copper can look red brown and can be confused for rust, though.
- Burgerbob
- Posts: 6327
- Joined: Apr 23, 2018
[quote="BGuttman"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="83367" time="1555916257" user_id="3131">
Well, seeing as the only rust-possible metals are stainless steel, there isn't any! It's just raw brass.[/quote]
Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.
So a steel horn would rust, but not stainless, nickel, silver, brass, bronze, copper, etc. Sometimes the oxides of copper can look red brown and can be confused for rust, though.
</QUOTE>
Yup, that's why I said there isn't any
Well, seeing as the only rust-possible metals are stainless steel, there isn't any! It's just raw brass.[/quote]
Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.
So a steel horn would rust, but not stainless, nickel, silver, brass, bronze, copper, etc. Sometimes the oxides of copper can look red brown and can be confused for rust, though.
</QUOTE>
Yup, that's why I said there isn't any
- gdoug
- Posts: 18
- Joined: Apr 22, 2019
[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="BGuttman" post_id="83385" time="1555950182" user_id="53">
Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.
So a steel horn would rust, but not stainless, nickel, silver, brass, bronze, copper, etc. Sometimes the oxides of copper can look red brown and can be confused for rust, though.[/quote]
Yup, that's why I said there isn't any
</QUOTE>
Derp, I do actually know better, thanks for the reminder!
Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.
So a steel horn would rust, but not stainless, nickel, silver, brass, bronze, copper, etc. Sometimes the oxides of copper can look red brown and can be confused for rust, though.[/quote]
Yup, that's why I said there isn't any
</QUOTE>
Derp, I do actually know better, thanks for the reminder!
- JohnL
- Posts: 2529
- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="BGuttman"]Small point of information: Stainless Steel doesn't rust. It was devised for this. Steel and iron rust.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.[/quote]
400-series stainless has little or no nickel in it; it's iron and chromium with small amounts of other stuff. 300-series stainless does have a lot of nickel (8-10% or thereabouts), but has even more chromium. It's the chromium that makes stainless stainless.
And stainless steels WILL rust (i.e., oxidize to form iron oxide) under the right (or wrong, depending on one's point of view) conditions.
But that's neither here nor there in the context of our discussion. Copper-based alloys can't rust in the strictest sense of the word (since "rust" is iron oxide), but they will oxidize.
Stainless steel is a nickel-iron alloy while steel is iron with a small amount of carbon.[/quote]
400-series stainless has little or no nickel in it; it's iron and chromium with small amounts of other stuff. 300-series stainless does have a lot of nickel (8-10% or thereabouts), but has even more chromium. It's the chromium that makes stainless stainless.
And stainless steels WILL rust (i.e., oxidize to form iron oxide) under the right (or wrong, depending on one's point of view) conditions.
But that's neither here nor there in the context of our discussion. Copper-based alloys can't rust in the strictest sense of the word (since "rust" is iron oxide), but they will oxidize.