CarolBrass convertible trombone

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AtomicClock
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by AtomicClock »

I think most convertible trombones have their place. But this is a bit much.

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by Kbiggs »

But… why?
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by JohnL »

I've played a few gigs where that extra couple of inches of clearance would have been handy.
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Finetales
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by Finetales »

Carol seems to just full send it with some bar napkin ideas. There's the trumpet that you can put in Bb, G, or F, there's the sax-shaped trumpet that you can also put in Bb, G, or F, there's the soprano trombone in G with a short flugel bell, there's the pocket trumpets with Dizzy bells and whatnot...they kind of just do whatever. No idea how it works as a business model, but here we are.

I just wish they got even MORE weird with it. Gimme flugelhorns in weird keys or G bass trombones or large bore sopranos with a valve or double bell trombones. Just fully commit!
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by brassmedic »

[quote="Kbiggs"]But… why?[/quote]

Pit orchestra?
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by Kbiggs »

[quote="brassmedic"]<QUOTE author="Kbiggs" post_id="293383" time="1769574304" user_id="172">But… why?[/quote]

Pit orchestra?
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Makes sense. I don’t think I would buy a new trombone just to fit in a pit unless it was a no horn, no job ultimatum. At the pre-tariff price, though, it might have been worth it.
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by harrisonreed » (edited 2026-01-28 2:07 p.m.)

[quote="Finetales"]Carol seems to just full send it with some bar napkin ideas. There's the trumpet that you can put in Bb, G, or F, there's the sax-shaped trumpet that you can also put in Bb, G, or F, there's the soprano trombone in G with a short flugel bell, there's the pocket trumpets with Dizzy bells and whatnot...they kind of just do whatever. No idea how it works as a business model, but here we are.

I just wish they got even MORE weird with it. Gimme flugelhorns in weird keys or G bass trombones or large bore sopranos with a valve or double bell trombones. Just fully commit![/quote]

I just looked some of these up. My first thought was "what in the Wild World of Sports are they thinking"? But then I thought about it and it's actually really kind of cool.

Not sure what the idea is with the sax trumpet though. I could see that being awesome during like a "moment" in big band, during the sax soli.
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by Finetales »

From what I've read via comments on the Carol Brass Facebook page, saxophone is enormously popular in Taiwan, and trumpet is not. So the sax-shaped trumpets are an attempt to get more home-market customers interested in trumpet.

No idea how true that is, but I could see it.
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by Posaunus »

I've been wondering what happened to Carol Brass (a Taiwanese brass manufacturer).

Heard nothing since Don Rugg (who was a Carol Brass dealer) closed California Music Supply in Fontana several years ago? He endorsed their trumpets; trombones were pretty new then.
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by Finetales »

They're still cranking out new models, and they have a few distributors in the US.
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by elmsandr »

Now, if the design had allowed for both the closed and open bits to be left out and it could stand in G…. Then at least we could have another reason for a G attachment thread complete with graphs.

As it is, if you are going to make a decent wrap that doesn’t protrude, just leave it at that. Don’t mess it up with a semi open wrap that loses the dump valve which is half the usefulness of the darned thing.

Cheers,

Andy
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by AtomicClock »

[quote="elmsandr"]Now, if the design had allowed for both the closed and open bits to be left out and it could stand in G[/quote]
Or use both for Eb. I'd love a little pigtail loop for my Bach 42.
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by timothy42b »

Ingenious!