SOLD!!!!! CONN 78H (79h) ROTOR SECTION
- Thrawn22
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I have a Conn 78h rotor valve section ( rotor, closed wrap tubing, one brace) I bought thinking it was an 88h section. Since I have no 78h ( though I'd love one), i figured I'd either sell it to some one who can use the valve or trade it for an 88h section in like condition. John Sandhagen at the boneyard checked it out, and other than the f tuning crook having had prior work done to it, the valve is great.
So like i said, I'd like an 88h valve section of equal condition or $200 shipped obo.
Email me at <EMAIL email="rosolinofitzpatrick@gmail.com">rosolinofitzpatrick@gmail.com</EMAIL>
Thanks.
Or maybe an Olsen valve would be cool ;)
So like i said, I'd like an 88h valve section of equal condition or $200 shipped obo.
Email me at <EMAIL email="rosolinofitzpatrick@gmail.com">rosolinofitzpatrick@gmail.com</EMAIL>
Thanks.
Or maybe an Olsen valve would be cool ;)
- Thrawn22
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Before people chime in with how I must mean a 79h valve section since the 78h is a straight horn, everytime I see a 79h or mention one I get a blank expression like 79s never existed.
So yes, it's a 79h section.;)
So yes, it's a 79h section.;)
- Posaunus
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I expect that Conn made relatively few 79H trombones compared to the 88H (which was for a while one of the gold standards for symphony orchestras). At 0.522" bore, it was too small for most orchestral work. But the 79H is a wonderful instrument (better, in my opinion, than the Bach 36B in the intermediate-bore size range), and has a bit of a cult following. I don't know when they began manufacturing them or how many F-attachment 79Hs were made compared to straight 78Hs, but they are both long "out of print" (never made it out of Elkhart in 1972), and command a premium price on the used trombone market.
- hyperbolica
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Posaunus,
Some wrong info here. 78h were very popular as symphonic instruments up through the 1950s. In fact the 78h was called the Symphony model for a while. They were made at least as far back as the 1920s. The 79h came into being in mid 1960s, I think. Also, I've owned a 79h from the UMI period, well after classic Elkhart
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn78H1965image.html
Some wrong info here. 78h were very popular as symphonic instruments up through the 1950s. In fact the 78h was called the Symphony model for a while. They were made at least as far back as the 1920s. The 79h came into being in mid 1960s, I think. Also, I've owned a 79h from the UMI period, well after classic Elkhart
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn78H1965image.html
- Posaunus
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[quote="hyperbolica"]Posaunus,
Some wrong info here. 78h were very popular as symphonic instruments up through the 1950s. In fact the 78h was called the Symphony model for a while. They were made at least as far back as the 1920s. The 79h came into being in mid 1960s, I think. Also, I've owned a 79h from the UMI period, well after classic Elkhart
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn78H1965image.html[/quote]
Hyperbolica,
I stand corrected. :weep: As a relative newbie to tromboniana, I was not aware of the early 78H production (from the ~1930s to the early 1950s). I only knew about the period from ~1959 to ~1972, when the 79H was apparently introduced as an F-attachment version of the 78H. I was not aware that any 79Hs made it out of Elkhart. :idk: I've never seen or heard of an Abilene 79H before, but I'm certainly no expert in the field. In any case, I still think the Elkhart 79Hs are fine trombones, as are the 88Hs.
Some wrong info here. 78h were very popular as symphonic instruments up through the 1950s. In fact the 78h was called the Symphony model for a while. They were made at least as far back as the 1920s. The 79h came into being in mid 1960s, I think. Also, I've owned a 79h from the UMI period, well after classic Elkhart
https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn78H1965image.html[/quote]
Hyperbolica,
I stand corrected. :weep: As a relative newbie to tromboniana, I was not aware of the early 78H production (from the ~1930s to the early 1950s). I only knew about the period from ~1959 to ~1972, when the 79H was apparently introduced as an F-attachment version of the 78H. I was not aware that any 79Hs made it out of Elkhart. :idk: I've never seen or heard of an Abilene 79H before, but I'm certainly no expert in the field. In any case, I still think the Elkhart 79Hs are fine trombones, as are the 88Hs.
- Trav1s
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The bore on the 79H valve section is .530" if anyone is interested. I wish I had the cash to pick this up for my Conn .522" horn party. (I replaced the valve on my 1969 79H because the ports on the original valve were damaged.)
- chromebone
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The 79 H wasn’t an official model until 1964-65. Before that, you could order a 78h with an f attachment as a special order. There are some examples with a flat wrap and others with the more familiar wrap that you have for sale. I have a 78H from 1962 with an F attachment that is a 79h in all but name.
I have seen Abeline 79 and 78h’s. They were gradually replaced by the 74 and 76 h models during the Abilene into the UMI period.
So now that this thread has been thoroughly hijacked, someone should snap this up. It would be certainly worth it to use to convert a 78h into a trigger Horn. The 78/79 h is one of the best horns Conn made.
I have seen Abeline 79 and 78h’s. They were gradually replaced by the 74 and 76 h models during the Abilene into the UMI period.
So now that this thread has been thoroughly hijacked, someone should snap this up. It would be certainly worth it to use to convert a 78h into a trigger Horn. The 78/79 h is one of the best horns Conn made.