WTB: Conn 72H Case
- snieckarz
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Hello all,
In search of a vintage Conn 72H "flatliner" case. If you have one available, please message me.
Thanks!
In search of a vintage Conn 72H "flatliner" case. If you have one available, please message me.
Thanks!
- bigbandbone
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Me toooooo!
- snieckarz
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I gave up my search and did a rebuild of the original case:
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- pompatus
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Nice work, Steve! What did you use to repair the wood around the bell section of the case? I’ve got one in similar condition I’d been kicking around the idea of using as a mold to build a fiberglass version of the same case.
- snieckarz
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Thanks! Just off the shelf DAP wood filler. Very durable! Covering is upholstery vinyl and crushed red velvet in the case.
- Mamaposaune
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Nice job on that, Steve! Coming from another trombonist who loves the original vintage cases enough to put the time and effort into restoring them.
I tried to strip and re-cover an 88H case, but could not get the tolex to stretch enough to cover the bell section. How did you manage? I've re-done the inside on several, however)
Also, wondering if you removed the hardware before covering, or worked around it?
Finally, how did you stitch the leather on the ends?
I tried to strip and re-cover an 88H case, but could not get the tolex to stretch enough to cover the bell section. How did you manage? I've re-done the inside on several, however)
Also, wondering if you removed the hardware before covering, or worked around it?
Finally, how did you stitch the leather on the ends?
- bigbandbone
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I'm thinking about buying a SKB Standard ATA Golf travel case and then blocking it to fit my 72H. Has anyone else tried something like that?
- Fairlane57
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I've restored several cases. It takes a great deal of time but worth it. Thanks, Bob.
- snieckarz
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[quote="Mamaposaune"]Nice job on that, Steve! Coming from another trombonist who loves the original vintage cases enough to put the time and effort into restoring them.
I tried to strip and re-cover an 88H case, but could not get the tolex to stretch enough to cover the bell section. How did you manage? I've re-done the inside on several, however)
Also, wondering if you removed the hardware before covering, or worked around it?
Finally, how did you stitch the leather on the ends?[/quote]
Thanks! This was the first case I've rebuilt versus touch up, so I learned as I went along. First off, I used Gorilla wood glue for gluing the upholstery vinyl. For the tricky curved areas of the bell, I used a fifty-pound sack of sand and set it on top for twenty-four hours until the glue was dried. The latches were replaced but the rest of the hardware was left on since I was worried about breaking the wood when removing the rivets. Very delicate cuts with an exacto knife. For the leather on the ends I cut the leather first to fit. Then, hand stitched the white trim by hand. Not easy! The original technique was stitching directly onto the case through the wood. Now, gluing leather to vinyl was a trick. Vinyl glue did the trick. What's nice about the vinyl glue is it also waterproofed the ends of the leather.
I tried to strip and re-cover an 88H case, but could not get the tolex to stretch enough to cover the bell section. How did you manage? I've re-done the inside on several, however)
Also, wondering if you removed the hardware before covering, or worked around it?
Finally, how did you stitch the leather on the ends?[/quote]
Thanks! This was the first case I've rebuilt versus touch up, so I learned as I went along. First off, I used Gorilla wood glue for gluing the upholstery vinyl. For the tricky curved areas of the bell, I used a fifty-pound sack of sand and set it on top for twenty-four hours until the glue was dried. The latches were replaced but the rest of the hardware was left on since I was worried about breaking the wood when removing the rivets. Very delicate cuts with an exacto knife. For the leather on the ends I cut the leather first to fit. Then, hand stitched the white trim by hand. Not easy! The original technique was stitching directly onto the case through the wood. Now, gluing leather to vinyl was a trick. Vinyl glue did the trick. What's nice about the vinyl glue is it also waterproofed the ends of the leather.
- snieckarz
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[quote="Fairlane57"]I've restored several cases. It takes a great deal of time but worth it. Thanks, Bob.[/quote]
Nice! Is that a Bach Mt. Vernon case?
Nice! Is that a Bach Mt. Vernon case?
- bigbandbone
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You guys are going to hate me! Just picked up a new never used bass bone case for $20!!!
I think it was meant for a Conn 112H. The area for the bell is huge!
A local high school was selling off a lot of stuff. Right place right time!
My 72H fits perfectly. No re-blocking needed.
I think it was meant for a Conn 112H. The area for the bell is huge!
A local high school was selling off a lot of stuff. Right place right time!
My 72H fits perfectly. No re-blocking needed.
- Fairlane57
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[quote="snieckarz"]<QUOTE author="Fairlane57" post_id="89821" time="1563308520" user_id="3074">
I've restored several cases. It takes a great deal of time but worth it. Thanks, Bob.[/quote]
Nice! Is that a Bach Mt. Vernon case?
</QUOTE>
New York Bach 50 bass trombone. The case didn't have placards before I restored it but I think the placards I found for it were New York or Mount Vernon. Bob
I've restored several cases. It takes a great deal of time but worth it. Thanks, Bob.[/quote]
Nice! Is that a Bach Mt. Vernon case?
</QUOTE>
New York Bach 50 bass trombone. The case didn't have placards before I restored it but I think the placards I found for it were New York or Mount Vernon. Bob
- Mamaposaune
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- Mamaposaune
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And the inside.<IMG src="">[img]</IMG>
- snieckarz
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NICE!!! Why do I have a feeling we're about to start a thread about vintage cases? :D
- immugsestife
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If you find a reasonable price to buy new, can you post up or PM me? Id also love a set, not going to hijack your WTB thread unless theres multiple sets available.
- Fairlane57
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I recently purchased a Conn 79H without a case. I had a Bach French style case in the garage that had a decent interior but very worn exterior. I elected to reuse the interior and restore the exterior but using the old hardware and a King handle that I had in my junk box.
By the way, years ago I purchased a whole bolt of this material for case exteriors that is closest I have ever found to the original materials used. I'll never use it all so if anyone would like to purchase some of the material please contact me.
Bob
By the way, years ago I purchased a whole bolt of this material for case exteriors that is closest I have ever found to the original materials used. I'll never use it all so if anyone would like to purchase some of the material please contact me.
Bob
- CalgaryTbone
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[quote="bigbandbone"]I'm thinking about buying a SKB Standard ATA Golf travel case and then blocking it to fit my 72H. Has anyone else tried something like that?[/quote]
I have used the golf case with a gig bag and some extra foam inside - you can then leave the golf case in your hotel room or wherever you're staying and transport the horn in just the gig bag.
I saw a video recently on the Edwards site that showed Marshall Gilkes using a similar case designed for camera tripods. Not sure if the dimensions would work for a bass trombone, or even a large tenor, but they are a bit shorter than the golf cases. If they do work, they would be a bit easier to get around the airports, and potentially less expensive to check (again, depending on the dimensions/weight and what the airline charges for oversized, etc.).
Jim Scott
PS - Love the vintage cases that have been restored!
I have used the golf case with a gig bag and some extra foam inside - you can then leave the golf case in your hotel room or wherever you're staying and transport the horn in just the gig bag.
I saw a video recently on the Edwards site that showed Marshall Gilkes using a similar case designed for camera tripods. Not sure if the dimensions would work for a bass trombone, or even a large tenor, but they are a bit shorter than the golf cases. If they do work, they would be a bit easier to get around the airports, and potentially less expensive to check (again, depending on the dimensions/weight and what the airline charges for oversized, etc.).
Jim Scott
PS - Love the vintage cases that have been restored!
- Thrawn22
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I managed to get a Holton basscase to take my modded 71H.
- hornbuilder
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Any French Bach 50 cases DJ??